http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/tags/purim YWN Coffee Room » Tag: Purim - Recent Posts en-US Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:22:42 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/search.php http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121787 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:36:39 +0000 tomim tihye 121787@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Nevertheless, doesn't the Novi tell us that Moshiach can come either "b'ito", in its time, or "achishena", speeded up, meaning that we have the power to determine to some extent the time Moshiach will come? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121717 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:46:08 +0000 anuran 121717@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>chesedname, prayers are always answered. Sometimes the answer is "No". Moshiach will come when it suits the Divine purpose. It is good to pray for that day, but I find the idea that we can coerce the Master of the Universe into doing our bidding against the Divine Will ... troublesome. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121555 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:44:41 +0000 chesedname 121555@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>You all have great points. what i was trying to bring out, even if we're perfect maybe hashem still wants us to ask for moshiach and mean it. like the avos hashem wanted to give them children and of course they deserved it, but hashem wanted them to daven for children before it came. I'm not saying lets do what we want and just ask for moshiach! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121521 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:39:38 +0000 aries2756 121521@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I was always taught and therefore I believe that Moshiach will come when we deservie to receive him. So davening alone will not do the trick. It is what every single person comes up with, sinas chinam, ahavas yisroel, davening, learning, not cheating, not stealing, not molesting, not abusing, not breaking the laws. Basically being ideal Jews representing Hashem's Torah, Mitzvos and maasim tovim. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121340 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:59:16 +0000 d a 121340@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>YW Moderator-80: "It's the old mashul about a little person standing on the shoulders of giants" I love Fried's song about that mashul, "On Giants Shoulders" (maybe this should go onto the "Most Heartfelt Jewish Song In Your View" thread, but anyways...) </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121338 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:52:50 +0000 d a 121338@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Amen! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121336 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:51:22 +0000 goody613 121336@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Im sure everyone knows the story about how moshiach came into every shul dressed differently then the people there and was thrown out.the reason the beis hamikdash was destroyed was because of sinaas chinam. if everyone would accept people for who they are maybe then moshiach will come. bemhayrah veyamanu </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121333 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:48:13 +0000 d a 121333@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>"If people would be learning Torah and doing maasim tovim instead of blogging maybe the geulAh would be here"</p> <p>Hashem Is Everywhere, start doing!!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121329 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:44:25 +0000 goody613 121329@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>when i say es tzemach dovid- i ask Hashem to help me really yearn for moshiach </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121325 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:34:17 +0000 Hashem Is Everywhere 121325@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>If people would be learning Torah and doing maasim tovim instead of blogging maybe the geulAh would be here </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121323 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:29:53 +0000 not2bright 121323@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>as they say, "the well was never full until it is empty"- you don't appreciate something until it's gone, so too the other way, we can't, or at least it's hard to appreciate the fact that the beis hamikdash isn't here until we know what we are lacking, so it's hard but we gotta work on it and try<br /> also, we can't just expect to walk into davening and when we get up to es tzemach, feel sorry and start crying for the beis hamikdash/mashiach, we have to make it part of our lives </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121176 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:58:34 +0000 anuran 121176@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Or maybe his arrival is on the Almighty's schedule, not ours. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121155 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:10:08 +0000 kapusta 121155@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>haifagirl, if Hashem decided that He will send Mashiach when there are (lets say) 100 Tefillos. Only 90 of them are able to be filled by people like the Chofetz Chaim and the Chazon Ish, and the remainder must come from "everyone else", then your Tefillos accomplish just as much. Additionally, for the people you mentioned, who were involved with issues involving the public, they felt the need for Mashiach more. For someone who isnt, they need to "work harder" to feel the need for Mashiach. Your (seemingly) simple Tefilla will accomplish more than anyone can imagine, and never forget that no Tefilla is ever wasted.</p> <p>About the original post, I once heard from a teacher of mine, that on Yom haChuppah, people ask for everything, but they tend to forget that davening for Mashiach includes it all. </p> <p>There can be any number of reasons why Mashiach isnt here yet, but wanting him more, and davening more, will definitely help to bring him faster.</p> <p><a>*kapusta*</a> </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121153 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:58:31 +0000 YW Moderator-80 121153@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>It's the old mashul about a little person standing on the shoulders of giants.</p> <p>Or how about the single straw that broke the camel's back.</p> <p>Or if you remember chemistry lab, the single drop of acid that finally made the solution turn red.</p> <p>Or the long fuse, but the final spark sets off the explosion. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121152 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:54:13 +0000 haifagirl 121152@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Every day, when I insert my personal tefillos into Shemoneh Esrei, I always ask for Moshiach. However, I have a feeling the Chofetz Chaim and Chazon Ish and others also asked for Moshiach, and if their tefillos weren't enough, what chance do mine have? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121147 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:23:43 +0000 SJSinNYC 121147@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Its hard to yearn for something you don't really understand. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121114 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:26:33 +0000 estherh 121114@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I think we need to consider other questions:<br /> Are you really waiting for Moshiach?<br /> Do you think about Moshiach coming constantly?<br /> Are you ready to leave your house if need be? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121108 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:08:27 +0000 Jewess 121108@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Anything is possible...but in my humble opinion it is probably a lack of ahavat yisrael that is causing the delay of the Mashiach. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121106 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:25:29 +0000 jphone 121106@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>my point is , like health and everything else you mentioned, we DO specifically ask for moshiach. three times a day. </p> <p>what you are advocating is not davening for moshiach specifically, rather to daven with kavana. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121105 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:57:15 +0000 chesedname 121105@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>to jphone<br /> "btw. dont you daven shomeh esrei three times a day? es tzemach david....."<br /> we do say it 3 times a day, but how many of us have the proper kavana and say it like we mean it? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121101 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:31:01 +0000 d a 121101@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Yout right. We got to keep davening, REALLY daven for moshiach.<br /> When Reb Chaim Pinchos Scheinberg was in America a few years ago, I went to see him. We davened Mincha together and Reb Chaim was the Chazzan. The emotion that the Rav had during וְלִירוּשָׁלַיִם עִירְךָ בְּרַחֲמִים תָּשׁוּב, was amazing. We all put all our emotions into the other brochos. The Rav is begging and pleading for Yerushalayim!</p> <p>And chesed, keep on doing chessed, thats sure gonna speed up the geulah! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121100 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:30:51 +0000 jphone 121100@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>im all for davening for moshiach (and anything else) all the time. nevertheless, unless you can verify that you are an advisor to the ribbono shel olam, statements like "moshiach is not here because...." are tough to take seriously. I know you didnt mean it, but the name of the thread should be rewritten if possible.</p> <p>btw. dont you daven shomeh esrei three times a day? es tzemach david..... </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121099 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:30:14 +0000 bearupphoj 121099@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Nah. I asked a couple of weeks ago already. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-moshiach-is-not-here#post-121097 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:07:20 +0000 chesedname 121097@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>After drinking many bottles of wine on purim, it hit me (not the bottle) why Moshiach is not here.<br /> It says by the Avos, Hashem didn't give them children right away because he wanted them to daven for it. Is it possible that Moshiach is not here because we don't specifically ask for him?<br /> Yes, we all want him but by daveing don't we ask for health, money,shidduch, etc....<br /> What are your thoughts? should we all daven really hard, at least until pesach for the quick coming of Moshiach?? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/adar-jokes#post-121088 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:01:45 +0000 d a 121088@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Yesterday, I was so drunk, I couldn't talk in a straight line... </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-121052 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:58:34 +0000 Mayan_Dvash 121052@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>oomis, I thought of that. One of the reasons I used XYZ in the post. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120909 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:21:55 +0000 Hashem Is Everywhere 120909@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Mayan, I k ow who it was<br /> cause I was there, </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120900 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:47:59 +0000 oomis1105 120900@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Just because the boy said he was from a certain yeshivah doesn't necessarily mean he was telling the truth. In any case, this was obnoxious behavior. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120887 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 11:08:09 +0000 jphone 120887@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Mayan. If I were in your position, I would call the Menahel of said Yeshiva and tell them exactly how one of their Bachurim was acting, on their behalf. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120881 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:17:40 +0000 Mayan_Dvash 120881@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>So this kid is stopping traffic in flatbush on East 27 street, (stands in front of your vehicle so you can't proceed). I can tell he's under the influence. I roll down my window and he says "Chayav Inish Livsumi" he probably wanted to say "Kol haposhet yad nosnim lo" He continued to say that he's from Yeshiva XYZ.... so I gave him a small amount. I'm not a rich guy, I don't drive a BMW/Lexus/Infiniti/etc. So he didn't like the amount I gave so he throws it back at my 7 year old son behind me and says "Here's shalach manos for your son" ...meanwhile there are cars behind me honking their horns.... My father taught me that one should not curse (I don't mean th filthy-mouth kind) so let me spin it this way: He should work an honest day in his life trying to support a family and understand my position.<br /> ; </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120839 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:41:12 +0000 Talmid_lo_Chacham 120839@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>B''H i didn't see his post, Hashem spared me from tzoros of seeing yidden doing mitzvos with no kovonoh </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120818 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:00:29 +0000 Jothar 120818@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Chayey Adam says "nohagin ktzas simcha" at night. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120785 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:31:14 +0000 ronrsr 120785@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>angryJB makes an excellent argument against giving young people their first drink on Purim. Hope he is now sleeping it off and has learned his lesson. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120774 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:17:27 +0000 oomis1105 120774@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Nope, there is NO hope for the Senate or any other part of the government. :)</p> <p>re: the accident seen by PY - OY. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120772 Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:03:25 +0000 Pashuteh Yid 120772@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I guess all the warning about not drinking this year did a lot of good. My family just passed a car accident in a frum neighborhood. Hope nobody is hurt. When will people learn? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120770 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:26:03 +0000 bombmaniac 120770@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>YAY :D now onto the US senate...lol </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120765 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:37:49 +0000 oomis1105 120765@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Ben Levi - finally, B"H. Simchas Purim. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120764 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:33:24 +0000 Ben Levi 120764@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>oomis Thats is one thing we can agree on </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120761 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:13:18 +0000 oomis1105 120761@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Angryjewboy - maybe you would not be so angry if you learned a little self control. This is not some teenybopper blog where anything goes. And btw, this is a perfect example of someone who should not be drinking on Purim. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/drinking-on-purim/page/3#post-120760 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:07:53 +0000 bombmaniac 120760@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>personally id IP ban... </p>