http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/tags/shidduchim YWN Coffee Room » Tag: Shidduchim - Recent Posts en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:19:10 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/search.php http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-346413 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 23:03:59 +0000 squeak 346413@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>That proves something important. Guys who are pushovers will end up with the damaged phobic girls. The guys who are leaders pick from better crop. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-346369 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 22:01:58 +0000 writersoul 346369@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Someone I know went out on her first date about 15 years ago--- they went to the Twin Towers to the observation deck. This guy takes her up, and is evidently enjoying himself enough that when she complains that she has a fear of heights, he REFUSES TO GO DOWN!!! She was wearing a flare skirt which was poofing in the wind and apparently keeping the skirt down luckily occupied enough of her energy that she was distracted at least a little from her phobia. They then went inside and got sodas, and when they finished them the guy ASKED IF THEY COULD GO BACK ON THE DECK. She refused.<br /> They did NOT get married, obviously. That was the first and last date.<br /> She went on another date--- they went to the Empire State building observation deck, she told him about the phobia, and he promptly took her back down and they went to Central Park instead.<br /> They did end up getting married. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-346352 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:03:43 +0000 sternberger 346352@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>i would post s/t but bh not in shidduchim yet... please revive this thread!!!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-333864 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:14:19 +0000 yay 333864@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>guy called 45 minutes before and asked if can come late, calls "im outside theres no parking" (i live on busy flatbush street but cmon!) and then looks uncombed and disheveled! eyes red from exhaustion and tells me was working on helping the tenants with some faulty stairs at a rental property his parents own! no time for a comb?! lol i was even asked the same questions over and over while we sat on date. real winner lol </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-333659 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:44:07 +0000 realtalk 333659@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Happened in Israel. Guy and girl going out for the first time. They're waiting by the bus stop when an arab comes up to them.<br /> Arab: Are you hubby and wife?<br /> Boy: Nope<br /> Arab: what are you doing here?<br /> Boy: Meeting<br /> Arab:Are you gonna get engaged?</p> <p>Second Date:<br /> In hotel lobby, boy goes to the bathroom. Older guy comes over and asks to sit down. Girl: someone's sitting there. Guy: Well there's enough room for me too. When boy returned:Lets have a party.</p> <p>NO there not married. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-318236 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:27:27 +0000 Dr. Pepper 318236@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>charlie brown &amp; Englishman-</p> <p>The stories that I wrote about myself are true. The stories that I wrote about others I assume are true. If there was any reason to doubt the story I usually mentioned that. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-318211 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:54:34 +0000 charlie brown 318211@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>englishman, lol. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-318204 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:47:14 +0000 Englishman 318204@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p><em>Dr. Pepper,<br /> So all those stories where really true? Wow!!!</em></p> <p>charlie brown: </p> <p>Doc said <em>"I've posted all the stories <strong>I can think of</strong>"</em>. Where did he say they were necessarily true? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-318187 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:28:50 +0000 charlie brown 318187@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Dr. Pepper,<br /> So all those stories where really true? Wow!!!</p> <p>Oh well, they were great while they lasted and thanks for sharing them here. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-317861 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:42:15 +0000 Englishman 317861@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>So how do you anticipate new stories coming up, Doc? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-317849 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:46:26 +0000 Dr. Pepper 317849@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>charlie brown-</p> <p>Actually I immediately recognized the number as 2^12.</p> <p>I've posted all the stories I can think of (except for the ones that will get me banned R"L). If any new stories come up I'll post them, I'm not in yeshiva and B"H haven't dated in a long time so don't hold your breath. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-317302 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 23:06:41 +0000 golden mom 317302@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>a couple friends go out to dinner to celebrate one of there engagements meanwhile for some reason one of the girls is looking for something in her pocketbook and lands up taking a few things out and putting it on the table one of the friends ask why she has pocket game boards in her pocketbook she said oh cuz i went on a date last night and when a date gets boaring i take out a game and offer the guy if u wants to play we all thought she was joking until we realized one of our other friends was chocking one her food till we got her to tell us what was so funny she said her choosed was telling her on one of the dates about all the crazy dates hes had and one of them was when a girl pulled out board games from her pocket book to play what a coinsodence she said till we realized that her friend dated her choosen how embarrising </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316865 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:26:49 +0000 charlie brown 316865@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>'twasn't the 4096th GS. It was the 6th attempt at a 4th GS, hence 4 to the 6th power which is 4096. Its all there b'feirush in the thread.</p> <p>but good to have you back anyway, Dr. Pepper. Please tell me you have more funny shidduch stories to share! You either had the wildest things happen to you on dates or you have an amazing imagination - either way, your stories are awesome and very much missed! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316860 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:19:50 +0000 miritchka 316860@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Well Dr. Pepper, many of us love to hear from you! please comment more often! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316854 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:15:01 +0000 Dr. Pepper 316854@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>yungerman1-</p> <p>I have ventured into other threads with horrible consequences. When I wished SJSinNYC a mazel tov on the birth of her daughter I must have said something that offended her since she hasn't been seen since. (At least not on YWN.)</p> <p>More recently whenever I comment on a thread about Joseph the thread is either deleted or locked. I did comment on on the 4096th General Shmooze though. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316818 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:37:13 +0000 yungerman1 316818@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Dr. Pepper- Do you only post on this thread?? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316801 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:25:19 +0000 YW Band 316801@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>For those who go 2 the Brklyn Marriot:</p> <p>I went pass the building in the main lane (not service lane) to look for parking. little did i know the next available was the bridge so I had to turn illegally when there was a cop looking 2!</p> <p>i said phew &amp; my date laughed but little embarrassing. i couldn't afford 20 min back &amp; forth on the bridge (yea like that will work 4 cops..) lol </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/26#post-316783 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:07:44 +0000 miritchka 316783@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Dr. Pepper! so good to hear from you again! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-316606 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:49:48 +0000 Dr. Pepper 316606@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>LuvsLife-</p> <p>Reminds me of a story my father told me from when he was in yeshiva.</p> <p>A guy borrowed his fathers car for the week of sheva berachos. One morning the father decides to take the car but didn't want to disturb the newlyweds so he didn't call them. The guy notices that the car is gone and panics. He calls the police, shows them the registration to "prove" that he is the owner and a short time later the police pull over the "thief". The "thief" didn't have the registration on him but he showed the cops his drivers license (which in those days didn't have a picture).</p> <p>He was arrested for car theft and using a fake ID. (The cops assumed that the son was the owner and the father found the ID in the car and "pretended" that he was the owner.)</p> <p>The newlyweds spent a full day of sheva berachos bailing out their father / father-in-law from jail for stealing his own car and impersonating himself! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-316599 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:43:56 +0000 mustangrider 316599@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>LuvsLife - how did they smoothe that one over??? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-316591 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:22:08 +0000 LuvsLife 316591@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>a guy borrows his friend's car for a date but his friend forgets to tell his wife that he lent the car out. the wife looks out the window and sees the car is missing so she calls the cops and they drive arnd town looking for it. they finally track it down and pull the guy on the date over. and to make everything worse the owner of the car was a diamond dealer and had a gun under the driver's seat! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-316433 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:03:57 +0000 bein_hasdorim 316433@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>More funny at the time, well, here goes.</p> <p>You know when you're dating and sometimes the girl has no grasp of what sarcasm is. Well, one time when I was dating, after about a half an hour I warmed up a little and started to share my sense of humor.</p> <p>I quickly realized that this girl was just not getting any whiff<br /> of sarcasm even with a strong emphasis on my tone. Realizing that there was no chance of a future with a girl that doesn't get me, or it.<br /> So I became curious as to what was the limit, and if I could push it. When would she finally say "I don't believe you." </p> <p>I started being sarcastic making up stuff I did, places I went,<br /> being chased by cops, arabs, miraculously escaping trouble.</p> <p>I believe I told her I lightly hit some drunk guy with the car, and since nobody noticed including him, I just kept on going.<br /> LOL! Her eyes got wider and wider but she kept on believing.</p> <p>It was too funny, she started thinking I was insane, but totally believed everything. I started worrying about my reputation so I told her to keep my adventures private as I was confiding in her.</p> <p>There was much silence from her the rest of the date as she couldn't top my stories.</p> <p>When I pulled up in front of her house, the car was still moving when she flung open the door, bolting out like the car was on fire. She probably just needed the restroom. </p> <p>I didn't even have to tell the Shadchan no or the reason B"H,<br /> She was very clear in her refusal to try again.</p> <p>I felt kind of bad...<br /> cause I had some more awesome stories to tell her.</p> <p>I guess she was embarrassed to tell others she dated an adventurer<br /> because B"H I never had to explain to the Shadchan what went on. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308942 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:29:53 +0000 miritchka 308942@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>same here! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308917 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 14:08:08 +0000 adorable 308917@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>some of these are hysterical Im rolling! its funny cause I read them months ago ( most of them) but dont rem them and they are funny all over again </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308673 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 09:05:06 +0000 yungerman1 308673@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>lightitup- So you were able to tell that the boy was cute and first glance, but you couldnt tell it was your brother? Now thats a story I have a hard time believing. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308647 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:21:21 +0000 amused 308647@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>You should of asked him "how do you _spell_ your name?" </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308615 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 00:31:32 +0000 mommamia22 308615@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I was once on a date where the guy accidentally turned onto one of the busiest avenues in the city, the WRONG WAY (into oncoming traffic)! To say I was terrified would be the understatement of the century!<br /> On another date (a different person), second date, he took me bowling. I volunteered to enter our names into the "computer". Of course, I had a momentary lapse of memory, and couldn't remember his name! Now that's embarrassing! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-308595 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:13:15 +0000 yoya 308595@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Let's revive this thread!! a/o have any funny dating stories recently? Dr. Pepper - i especcially like ur stories!!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-280081 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:52:29 +0000 Dr. Pepper 280081@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Yes, you got it.</p> <p>(Do you know any of my other brothers?) </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-280080 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:50:26 +0000 Pac-Man 280080@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Dr. Pepper,</p> <p>Was that Moshe you did that to? </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-280066 Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:23:34 +0000 Dr. Pepper 280066@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>deiyezooger-</p> <p>Thanks for reviving this, this story happened after a date, I hope no one minds.</p> <p>My brother and I were grocery shopping some years ago when we came to a large open area in the store, it was two wide aisles with a waist high freezer section in the middle. My brother paused, motioned at a girl and her mother who were in the second aisle and said, "oh no, I went out with her, let's make a run for it before she turns around".</p> <p>He took off with the shopping cart. As he passed the aisle I put my foot in front of the wheel, he let out this loud gasp and the girl swung around to see him bent over the handle bar, feet slightly in the air. His face was still red when he promised to get me back. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-279843 Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:05:50 +0000 deiyezooger 279843@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Just bringing up the thread in connection whith the emberesing stories thread. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237492 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:17:45 +0000 Joseph 237492@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Ewww, but funny. :) </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237442 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:16:27 +0000 LuvMe 237442@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>hahahahaha i have a really funny one. okay so this girl (not saying how i know her, b/c i dont want people to figure me out) went on a date. she wanted to go to the bathroom, and so did he. so they both got up to go, but it was a one bathroom resteraunt. so the gentleman that he is, he let her go first. after touching up her makeup for like ten minutes, she went back out, and noticed the toilet was stuffed! she couldnt leave so she PLUNGED IT WITH HER HAND!!!!!!!!!!! gross. they ended up getting married tho and have an adorable kid. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237426 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:43:13 +0000 popa_bar_abba 237426@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p><a href="http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/lying-on-ywn" rel="nofollow">http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/lying-on-ywn</a> </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237393 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 06:49:15 +0000 binahyeseira 237393@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>maybe the mods removed it because of the loshon hora in it. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237361 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:52:14 +0000 binahyeseira 237361@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>the one where he admits that he does not always tell the truth, the whole truth, and/or anything like the truth. :) </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237360 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:51:15 +0000 binahyeseira 237360@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>cshapiro: i think you have forgotten pba's other thread. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237242 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:37:10 +0000 cshapiro 237242@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>lol thats mean popa but he prob deserved it!!!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237223 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:09:10 +0000 popa_bar_abba 237223@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>My friend's sister was on a date, and the guy parked in an illegal spot.<br /> The guy was being a real jerk, so she went to the "bathroom", and flagged down a cop, showed him the car, and said it was her boyfriend's who had just dumped her.<br /> The cop had it towed to Islip. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237202 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:20:32 +0000 lightitup 237202@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I was on a date in one of the lounges. Surprisingly there was only one other shidduch date there (usually the place is crowded)and I happened to think the boy was quite cute at first glance! An hour later I get a closer look (still just us 2 couples in the lounge) when the boy gets up to get his date a drink-and I realize-its my BROTHER!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237180 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:26:29 +0000 HIE 237180@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Dunno: my brother's car got towed.<br /> End of the story; they're happpily married!! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-237167 Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:01:22 +0000 dunno 237167@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>A friend of mine told me she was on a date and the guy's car got towed! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-204364 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 11:00:49 +0000 A23 204364@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>AKA47, that is a common urban myth in the goyishe velt. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-204166 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:01:39 +0000 AKA47 204166@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>once a guy and girl were on a date and the guy noticed his pants was ripped so he made up a story to the girl how he needed to pick up a set of clothing to be given as a gift to someone. after they went into the store he picked out a shirt and a pair of pants . when he got to the register he whispered to the cashier that he only needed the pants and that the shirt shouldn't be put into the bag. after leaving the store with his date and new purchase they proceeded to a restaurant where the guy went directly to the mens room to change his pants . when he got there he took off his ripped pants ,threw them out the window . he opened the bag and realized that the cashier put the shirt instead of the pants into the bag . he was stuck obviously and thats all i heard of the story dont know how it ends . if anyone does, would be appreciated. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-198116 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:46:36 +0000 simchashachaim 198116@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>@chayav inish livisumay<br /> NOT AT ALL! just playing around with the words. </p> <p>MOSHE EMES VITORAHSO EMES!!</p> <p>"BARUCH HU...VINASON LANU TORAH EMES...."! </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-198073 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:00:09 +0000 popa_bar_abba 198073@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>To see the full case:<br /> <a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3374229982763210027&amp;q=282+N.Y.S.2d+858&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=2,14" rel="nofollow">http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3374229982763210027&amp;q=282+N.Y.S.2d+858&amp;hl=en&amp;as_sdt=2,14</a> </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-198058 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:39:10 +0000 iyhbyu 198058@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>@simchashaim-you were right. My bad. I'm posting just a bit of the court's opinion which it talks about yichud.</p> <p>Claimants called Rabbi Herschel Stahl to testify as an expert witness on the Hebrew Law and the orthodox interpretation and observance of said Law. The Rabbi knew Miss Friedman and her family and he knew that she had been reared in an orthodox observance of her faith. Rabbi Stahl advised the Court that under the Hebrew Law, the Shulchan Arukh, there is a specific law, the Jichud, which absolutely forbids a woman to stay with a man in a place which is not available to third person. To violate this Jichud would be an overwhelming moral sin which would not only absolutely ruin this young girl's reputation but also the reputation of her parents. It was his opinion that a girl who had been trained in a 100 per cent orthodox home, as Miss Friedman was, might go even to the lengths of jumping to her death to avoid violation of the Jichud. The Court was treated to a skillful, albeit rather vehement, cross-examination of Rabbi Stahl. It led us to the conclusion that, while a member of the liberal or conservative wings of Judaism might disagree with the Rabbi's interpretation of Hebrew Law, it was entirely within the realm of possibilities, that a 100 per cent orthodox member of Judaism, which Miss Friedman was, would agree with said interpretation. It appears to the Court that the point is not whether Rabbi Stahl gave us an *453 absolutely correct interpretation of Hebrew Law, although we hasten to add that we admired his composure, intellect, background, and obvious sincere truthfulness in his answers; but, whether there is a branch of Judaism which believes in this interpretation; and, whether Miss Friedman is a member of this group. We must answer both of these points in the affirmative. Certainly, Rabbi Stahl's testimony established a basis for the moral compulsion that Miss Friedman believed she was under and which, in our opinion, increased the hysteria we believe a young girl might well experience regardless of faith. As stated by Justice Frankfurter in Watts v. State of Indiana, 338 U.S. 49, 52, 69 S.Ct. 1347, 1349, 93 L.Ed. 1801: ‘There is torture of mind as well as body; the will is as much affected by fear as by force. * * *’<br /> Friedman v. State, 282 N.Y.S.2d 858, 860 (N.Y. Ct. Cl. 1967) </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-198039 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 11:09:37 +0000 iyhbyu 198039@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>@simcha-My bad. You were right. I'm going to post a bit of the court's opinion though I don't know if the Mods will find it to be too long. Friedman v State.282 N.Y.S.2d 858</p> <p>On August 22, 1963, Ruth Friedman was sixteen years of age and had been reared in the Hebrew faith by parents who adhered to ultraorthodox tenets. She had been educated in Yeshiva schools and her own religious adherence included a strict observance of the laws, traditions, and customs of the Hebrew religion. She had completed her sophomore year in high school and was in good physical and mental health. She was athletically inclined and in the summer of 1963 was **861 employed as a counselor and lifeguard at Camp Shiroh, an Orthodox Jewish children's camp located at Parksville, Sullivan County, New York. She had one day off a week which she generally spent with a Jack Katz, 19 years of age, and another counselor. As August 22nd was her day-off, she and Jack Katz decided to take a picnic lunch and drive to Belleayre Mt. Ski Center for an afternoon of sightseeing. The other counselor could not accompany them on that date. They arrived at Belleayre in the early afternoon and, after parking the car, walked to the chair lift terminal at the base of the mountain. Mr. Katz purchased two round-trip tickets and they ascended the mountain via said chair lift. At the trial, both Miss Friedman and Mr. Katz testified that no one advised them at the base terminal or at the apex terminal that the lift operation closed for passenger traffic at 5:50 P.M. Both of them denied observing any signs advising the hours of operation of the ski lift for passenger traffic. However, at the examination before trial of Miss Friedman conducted on October 9, 1965, she stated that she knew the closing time was 5:30 P.M. because of ‘the sign’ (page 28). However, she could not remember whether she or Mr. Katz saw the sign; or, whether the sign was at the top or bottom of the mountain.<br /> After arriving at the top of the chair lift, they walked away from the ski lift area, through the picnic area to an area, where they were out of sight of the ski lift terminal, and had their picnic lunch. They then wandered around the area sight seeing. Miss Friedman testified that it started to become colder, she was dressed in a cotton skirt, light blouse, and sneakers, and that she thought she looked at her watch and, as it was about 5:10 P.M., she said they should go back down the mountain. Mr. Katz thought it was about 5:30 P.M. when they decided to go back down the mountain. It took them about 10 to 15 minutes to walk to the chair lift area. When they arrived there, they found it deserted but the chair lift was still in operation. Mr. Katz suggested that they walk the trail down but Miss Friedman was cold and tired and, as they had purchased round-trip tickets, *452 suggested that they get on the chair lift and ride it down the mountain; which they did. They did not observe any barriers which prevented their walking to the loading platform; and, they did not have to climb over, through, or under any barriers to reach the loading platform. They did not observe any signs which forbade their entering the loading area when attendants were not present. A few minutes after they started down on the chair lift, at about towers 15 and 16, the chair lift ceased operation and these two young people were stranded, suspended 20 to 25 feet in the air. They screamed and yelled for help for over 15 minutes but to no avail. They discussed their situation and Miss Friedman became agitated, panicky and reached a stage of near hysteria at the prospect of being stranded on the mountain, 25 feet in the air, overnight. It **862 is our opinion, and we so find, that she reached the hysterical frame of reference for two reasons. In the first instance, it does not require much imagination or experience to determine that a lightly dressed 16 year old city girl might become hysterical at the prospect of spending a night on a mountainside, suspended in the air and with no apparent reason to hope for rescue until the next morning. Secondly, we must add to the fact of expectable hysteria, the moral compulsion this young lady believed she was under, not to spend a night alone with a man.<br /> Claimants called Rabbi Herschel Stahl to testify as an expert witness on the Hebrew Law and the orthodox interpretation and observance of said Law. The Rabbi knew Miss Friedman and her family and he knew that she had been reared in an orthodox observance of her faith. Rabbi Stahl advised the Court that under the Hebrew Law, the Shulchan Arukh, there is a specific law, the Jichud, which absolutely forbids a woman to stay with a man in a place which is not available to third person. To violate this Jichud would be an overwhelming moral sin which would not only absolutely ruin this young girl's reputation but also the reputation of her parents. It was his opinion that a girl who had been trained in a 100 per cent orthodox home, as Miss Friedman was, might go even to the lengths of jumping to her death to avoid violation of the Jichud. The Court was treated to a skillful, albeit rather vehement, cross-examination of Rabbi Stahl. It led us to the conclusion that, while a member of the liberal or conservative wings of Judaism might disagree with the Rabbi's interpretation of Hebrew Law, it was entirely within the realm of possibilities, that a 100 per cent orthodox member of Judaism, which Miss Friedman was, would agree with said interpretation. It appears to the Court that the point is not whether Rabbi Stahl gave us an *453 absolutely correct interpretation of Hebrew Law, although we hasten to add that we admired his composure, intellect, background, and obvious sincere truthfulness in his answers; but, whether there is a branch of Judaism which believes in this interpretation; and, whether Miss Friedman is a member of this group. We must answer both of these points in the affirmative. Certainly, Rabbi Stahl's testimony established a basis for the moral compulsion that Miss Friedman believed she was under and which, in our opinion, increased the hysteria we believe a young girl might well experience regardless of faith. As stated by Justice Frankfurter in Watts v. State of Indiana, 338 U.S. 49, 52, 69 S.Ct. 1347, 1349, 93 L.Ed. 1801: ‘There is torture of mind as well as body; the will is as much affected by fear as by force. * * *’ </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/funny-shidduch-stories/page/25#post-198018 Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:19:58 +0000 dunno 198018@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>A23<br /> I never believed that story until now :) </p>