http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ en Sat, 25 Jul 2015 02:22:02 +0000 http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/public-apology-to-wolfishmusings-others#post-437927 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:36:03 +0000 DaasYochid 437927@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>Since the other thread was closed before I got a chance to comment, I want to point out that Zdad correctly pointed out that he does not generally insult other posters (except one whom he called a troll). Although I frequently disagree with Zdad, and find his opinions to be biased and often based on misinformation, I try to keep my dialogue with him civil. I was very uncomfortable with the personal attacks, so I will take this opportunity to say that I think that it went overboard.</p> <p>Wolf, an ad hominum argument is invalid (unless some of the force of the argument is appeal to authority) when the point being debated is not the person in question. I this case, the ad hominum argument, I think, was not being brought to prove the point about loshon hora. It was brought as a personal attack, to demonstrate Zdad's inconsistency. </p> <p>As an aside, LH does not apply to someone who is not "bichlal amisecha", and IIRC, the issue of speaking badly about the deceased is not technically a LH issue. I could be wrong, but I think the problem with speaking negatively about Koch is that it shows a lack of hakaras hatov (appreciation) for what he accomplished on behalf of the Jewish people. </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/public-apology-to-wolfishmusings-others#post-437915 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:17:27 +0000 WolfishMusings 437915@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>In the interest of fairness and accuracy, it should be pointed out that all I did was simply point out that an argument was ad hominem. I did not actually stand up for or defend anyone in the thread.</p> <p>Nonetheless, your thoughtfulness and apologies are appreciated.</p> <p>The Wolf </p> http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/public-apology-to-wolfishmusings-others#post-437875 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 08:27:39 +0000 bris kodesh 437875@http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/ <p>I just wanted to publicly apologize to WolfishMusings and anyone else I accidentally insulted in another CR thread. You and several others did properly stand up for what was right and defended ZDad or asked others to at least stop bashing him.</p> <p>I wrote something about "all of you are pathetic" and WolfishMusings was correct - not "all of you." While I'm on this point, thanks to the moderators who finally closed down that out of hand discussion.</p> <p>I'm going to go back to my Mishna Avot... looks like I still have some work to do :-) </p>