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Ban of mishpacha and others bans

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  • Started 4 months ago by Yoni the yogi
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  1. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    I would like to know more informations about those bans and what people think about it

    Posted 4 months ago #
  2. Shrek
    I live in a swamp! I put up signs! I'm a terrifying ogre! What do I have to do to get a little privacy?

    Mishpacha was banned? Fine, so I'll read Newsweek.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  3. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    I do not observe bans unless told to me directly by the person making the ban.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 months ago #
  4. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    I personally like Ban. Its a great product. Helps you feel fresh all day long. (wink)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  5. oomis1105
    Member

    Seriously? I don't believe it.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  6. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    I have the same approach than you Mrs The wolf. I'm just curious about life and about human beings. I don't read any of those publication becaise I don't like propaganda. Nobody has totell me how to think. But I appreciate a nice open discussion based on truth and respect.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  7. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Mrs The wolf

    Do you know something about me that I don't know?

    The Wolf (who is most definitely a Mr. Wolf and NOT a Mrs. Wolf)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    I am pretty sure that the Wolf is a Wolf, and not a Wolfette

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    Sorry MR THE WOLF, I got an argument between my fingers. Lol. I hope you forgive me. No bad intention at all.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  10. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    Sorry MR THE WOLF, I got an argument between my fingers. Lol. I hope you forgive me. No bad intention at all.

    No need to apologize. I wasn't offended, merely amused.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 months ago #
  11. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    Thank mr the wolf.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  12. The Horse's Mouth
    Member

    At the very least, the ban serves notice to the target (Mishpacha in this case) that they are off the Jewish beaten track, according to the leaders of Torah Judaism, and they will face consequences as such. It usually will result in the target shaping up somewhat to avoid facing more such denounciations.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  13. oomis1105
    Member

    I read Mishpacha, and I would love to know where they are off the Jewish track.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  14. mytake
    Member

    Banned by whom?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  15. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    (Mishpacha in this case) that they are off the Jewish beaten track, according to the leaders of Torah Judaism

    Why should they observe the ban? I don't observe it.

    The Wolf

    Posted 4 months ago #
  16. soliek
    Member

    lol mishpacha is banned but ami isnt...i find that amusing. not because i think either is worthy of being banned, but because ami is a bit more left than mishpacha

    Posted 4 months ago #
  17. apushatayid
    Member

    Just curious. Who supposedly banned mishpacha?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  18. aries2756
    Smartness runs in my family.

    I am for banning all bans and promoting bands instead!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  19. Avi K
    Member

    I think that they are talking about a newspaper of the same name - especially as the YWN article said that the background is a dispute with Yated.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  20. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    To apushatayid
    Harav Elyashiv Shlit"a

    Posted 4 months ago #
  21. apushatayid
    Member

    Interesting.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  22. wanderingchana
    expat

    Aries, you beat me to it!

    Ban the Bans...

    Posted 4 months ago #
  23. soliek
    Member

    btw just out of curiosity what is this supposed feud between yated and mishpacha about?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  24. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    In Williamsburg Brooklyn NY, they banned Mishpacha, Hamodia and .Bina
    I'm reading tv iran an iranian newspaper in english, very kosher and sometimes funny. Fed up with orthodox politics.
    About band, jazz band?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  25. DaasYochid
    Member

    I don't think they're talking about the English language Mishpacha.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  26. DaasYochid
    Member

    I am for banning all bans

    Including that one? :)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  27. oomis1105
    Member

    I am still confused. What caused the ban l'chatchilah? I have never seen anything offensive in Mishpacha.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  28. DaasYochid
    Member

    oomis,

    Do you read the Hebrew Mishpacha?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  29. The Horse's Mouth
    Member

    The Israeli Mishpacha newspaper and magazine and the American magazine all share the same ownership and much editorial content.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  30. ZeesKite
    Because Mommy Said So

    Actually people read Mishpacha on the ban.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  31. YW Moderator-42
    Always knows where his Towel is

    Now let's see if anybody can back up The Horses Mouth. And even if he is correct, it could be that R' Elyashiv only banned the Hebrew Newspaper (if he ever actually issued any ban at all)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  32. golden mom
    Member

    i did hear people strongly suggest not reading the bina (which i understand) but hamodia and mishpacha??? i dont understand!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  33. apushatayid
    Member

    Rav Elyashic Shlita found content in the Mishpacha that he didn't like or found objectionable? I highly doubt he ever read a single word of the publication. How did he find objectionable content?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  34. zahavasdad
    Member

    That is the real problem with these bans

    Stuff is banned that is not read.

    The book Making of a godol was banned by gedolim who do not speak or read english

    Posted 4 months ago #
  35. MaidofCH
    Member

    Probably MISHPACHA is too much reality for them. They can't deal with either the outside world or certain internal issues.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  36. The Horse's Mouth
    Member

    You can trust Rav Elyashev. He doesn't issue a proclamation lightly. When he does he knows what he is dealing with a lot better than any of us.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  37. apushatayid
    Member

    Its not Rav Elyashiv we don't trust. Just those who claim to speak in his name.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  38. The Horse's Mouth
    Member

    According to yesterday's story on the front page of Yeshiva World, Rav Elyashev personally signed a public letter calling for the ban.

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=113410

    Posted 4 months ago #
  39. aries2756
    Smartness runs in my family.

    Mishpacha is very important, it is the foundation for all Jews, without Mishpacha what would happen to our children? I refuse to ban families!!!! I don't care who says so.

    On a serious note. I have not as yet heard that R' Eliyashav is feeling better or is at a point where people are telling him what is going on around him. How can any of us believe that he is saying any of what is being in written in his name?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  40. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    From what I read recently, the letter was published on the hebrew Yated Neeman and the last information, it seems that is a fake. I'm not surprised.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  41. WIY
    Member

    For these and similar bans (as well as raybans talibans turbans and all other bans) to be taken seriously it would be beneficial to quote precisely what was found to be a problem with these publications. They should reference a specific article and explain the problem with it. Otherwise we are inclined to think the ban is based on politics and the "handlers" were able to convince the Rav that its necessary to ban the publication.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  42. WIY
    Member

    Yoni
    You seriously mean that it has been confirmed that a party went ahead and faked Rav Elyashivs signature?!!! Can you give me some more info????

    Posted 4 months ago #
  43. Yoni the yogi
    Member

    To WIY
    I read it on another site. I know this guy has an agenda, but usually he's pretty well informed.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  44. oomis1105
    Member

    Do you read the Hebrew Mishpacha"

    No, do you? Is it not supposed to be that what we get here is the English translation?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  45. WIY
    Member

    Yoni
    I know which site you mean. I don't read his site its too disgusting. I will wait for others to pick up on the story first before allowing myself to get upset about this.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  46. apushatayid
    Member

    So, what was so objectionable in a frum publication, that supposedly is backed by rabbonim that the paper had to be taken to rav elyashiv shlita and not the rabbonim who advise the paper?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  47. mytake
    Member

    golden mom

    "i did hear people strongly suggest not reading the bina (which i understand)"

    What exactly is objectionable about the Bina? Just curious, because I read it here and there and never found a problem.

    Posted 4 months ago #

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