Birthday/Yartzeit in Leap Year (2 Adar's)

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  • #595017

    canine
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    If someone was born or passed away on a non-“ibber yur”, does there birthday or yartzeit fall out on Adar Rishon or Adar Sheini on a leap year?

    #742305

    gefen
    Participant

    Well, one of my daughters was born in Adar – not a leap year. When a leap year comes around (as this year), technically her birthday is Adar Sheini. However, she prefers to celebrate 3 birthdays this year: her english birthday, a birthday “koton” in Adar Aleph and then her real birthday in Adar Sheini. Can’t argue with her logic. Why not celebrate as much as you can? 🙂

    #742306

    Feif Un
    Participant

    I believe Adar Sheini

    #742307

    sheini. cf: Purim.

    #742308

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    birthday- adar sheini

    yahrtzeit- machlokes (so should be machmir and do both)

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #742309

    ZeesKite
    Participant

    If I’m correct, it’s Adar Rishon.

    #742310

    boredstiff
    Participant

    My birthday is in Adar. When I was younger I used to celebrates in both Adars- not, I only celebrate in the second Adar- which is officially the real one.( trying to push off my birthday!)

    #742311

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    It’s Adar Sheini.

    This leads to an interesting phenomenon that we’re experiencing right now. Since thirteen years ago was not a leap year, there are no Bar Mitzvahs this month. Everyone born in Sh’vat 5758 had their Bar Mitzvah last month and everyone born in Adar 5758 is having their Bar Mitzvah next month. So this month (Adar I 5771) there are no Bar Mitzvahs.

    The Wolf

    #742312

    cutie pie
    Member

    Birthdays are in Adar Sheini!! (My birthday is in Adar and in a leap year it’s the second Adar!) 🙂

    #742313

    1st timer
    Participant

    My husband has YarTzeit in Adar, so he said Kaddish on the night in the first Adar and by Adar Shayni he will keep the full YarTzeit as he always does

    #742314

    IDKyet
    Member

    my birthday is in adar rishon, as in it was a leap year when i was born… i always said that i didn’t have a birthday, which makes for an interesting topic of conversation…

    #742315

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    my birthday is in adar rishon, as in it was a leap year when i was born… i always said that i didn’t have a birthday, which makes for an interesting topic of conversation…

    The real people impacted are the people who are born on the 30th day of Adar I. They’re the Jewish equivalents of those who are born on Feb 29.

    The Wolf

    #742316

    always here
    Participant

    my youngest was born in Adar Beis.. she’s always thrilled for leap years to celebrate her ‘real’ birthday.

    all 4 of my grandparents, a’h, have Adar yahrzeits… I’m so glad I receive (mail) reminders; I’ve received for this month… now I’m curious if I’ll receive for Adar Beis as well.

    #742317

    twisted
    Participant

    You can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan.

    #742318

    Some others who do not have annual birthdays are those born

    30 Cheshvon (1st day Rosh Chodesh Kislev)

    & 30 Kislev (1st day Rosh Chodesh Teves)

    #742319

    twisted
    Participant

    You can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan. Events of Adar 1 are observed in Shvat of a pashut year.

    #742320

    twisted
    Participant

    You can also have “misisng days” if it involves the thirtieth of Kislev,or of Heshvan. Events of Adar 1 are observed in Shvat of a pashut year.

    #742321

    canine
    Member

    Another intresting point is that if Baby Reuven is born on 20 Adar Aleph and Baby Shimon is born a few weeks later on 5 Adar Beis, and then 13 years later there is only one Adar, and both Reuven and Shimon commit a death penalty crime on the exact same day of the 15th of Adar, the “older” Reuven is off the hook and free since he is still a minor, while the “younger” Shimon is executed as an adult.

    #742322

    rabbiofberlin
    Participant

    canine…there is a much easier example and much more “lemaaseh” bar mitzvahs ! a boy born on the second month of adar -after his friend born on the first month of adar-will have his bar mitzvah earlier in a non-leap year, if he is born on an earlier day of the month.

    #742323

    moishy
    Member

    does anyone know if 12 years ago was a leap year?

    #742324

    IDKyet
    Member

    twisted-

    is that really true? whats the source for it??

    #742325

    Other than Chabad which has a seder hayom for birthdays tehillim, learning, ???? Is any one aware of any other ?????? in “commemorating” birthdays in a torah context? I am not referring to specific landmark birthday such as ????

    @ 3 etc

    #742326

    canine
    Member

    WMBB: Bar Mitzvah date.

    #742327

    RE my previous post abput ????? ??? ?????

    See these links I just don’t have the patience to click & paste

    &/or summrize

    http://www.biu.ac.il/JH/Parasha/vayeshev/avi.html

    http://www.daniel-h.co.il/files/25.60246868.pdf

    #742328

    K9 I am not referring to specific landmark birthday …

    #742329

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    does anyone know if 12 years ago was a leap year?

    5759 was not a leap year.

    The Wolf

    #742330

    moishy
    Member

    thank you wolf

    #742331

    observanteen
    Member

    My birthday is in Adar. I think my actual birthday is in Adar Shenini. Although I accept birthday presents in Adar Rishon too:)

    #742332

    Huvi
    Member

    how nout wedding anniverseries?? my husband says adar beis but i think he says that cus feels bad he might of forgotten

    #742333

    2qwerty
    Participant

    I recently heard a shiur about it. Basically, for mitzvah purposes we wait till the second Adar to be sure but for everything else we can use first one.

    So for bar mitzvah we wait extra for the second Adar.

    But for yartzeit we can use first Adar.

    #742334

    Huvi asked how about wedding anniverseries??

    There are no halachos or minhagim involved, If it is your own day of gratitude to Hashem then one day is as good as the other.

    #742335

    moishy
    Member

    was 5760 a leap year? Thanx

    #742336

    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    This leads to an interesting phenomenon that we’re experiencing right now. Since thirteen years ago was not a leap year, there are no Bar Mitzvahs this month. Everyone born in Sh’vat 5758 had their Bar Mitzvah last month and everyone born in Adar 5758 is having their Bar Mitzvah next month. So this month (Adar I 5771) there are no Bar Mitzvahs.

    it’s wierd though b/c in the hamodia theyre mentioning in the simcha section Bar Mitzvahs (gets you wondering)

    :p> mbachur <d:

    #742337

    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    was 5760 a leap year? Thanx

    5760 was a leap year.

    Here’s how you figure out whether a year is a leap year or not.

    Take the year and divide it by 19. Look at the remainder of that calculation. If the remainder is 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17 or 19, that year is a leap year.

    5771 modulo 19 = 14, and hence 5771 is a leap year.

    The Wolf

    #742338

    eman
    Participant

    Reply to Huvi

    how nout wedding anniverseries?? my husband says adar beis but i think he says that cus feels bad he might of forgotten

    It depends if your anniversery feels like a birthday or a yarzeit.

    #742339

    canine
    Member

    Someone said if the event occured in Adar Rishon on an ibber yur, on a non ibber yur it is celebrated in Shevat. Anyone heard that?

    #742340

    candy613
    Member

    it would be adar sheine… If one was born or passed during adar of a leap year it would be depending on if it was adar rishon or sheine. For example if one was born in the first adar during a leap year, and their bar mitzva is also during a leap year, then they would celebrate it during the first adar. Same goes with a yartzeit!

    #742341

    Here is an easy way to find out whehther a year is ?????

    go to http://www.chabad.org/calendar/1000year_cdo/aid/6225/jewish/Date-Converter.htm

    and try to convert a date in Adar 2 in that year to civil

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