Blocking the shul door while davening

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    Chaimy
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    Does it bother you when you TRY to walk into shul and someone decided that the place in front of the bookcase with the siddurim or right by the door is the place he needs to daven. Especially Shemoina Esrai right in front of the door. This person maybe walked in just in time start Shemoina Esrai, with the Tzibbur or Chazuras Hasatz, so therefore he picks the closest place and forgets that there are other people besides him that walk in or out during the davening or before the Tzibbur finishes this Minyan, and the next.

    #965414
    rebdoniel
    Member

    Sounds like a fire hazard to me. This person needs to be told that he’s creating a pikuach nefesh concern.

    #965416
    tootallny
    Member

    I attended a shiur where Rabbi Eitan Feiner said explicitly, that if someone is blocking a door during Shmoneh Esrei you have the right to pick him up and move him!!!! People are so SOOOOOOO inconsiderate.

    #965417
    JaneDoe18
    Participant

    Also, while Person A is davening Shmoneh Esray,

    Person B is not allowed to pass in front of Person A’s Daled Amos,

    because the Shechinah is in front of Person A

    while he davens Shmoneh Esray.

    #965418
    writersoul
    Participant

    I have that situation somewhere where the place that many people daven (for the sake of their kavanah, as it’s a bit secluded) is right in the way of the elevator, which I and others need to use. It really causes a lot of agmas nefesh for the people who cannot take the stairs (I can and do many times, but there are people who need the elevator and are really inconvenienced).

    #965419
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    no

    #965420
    pinnym
    Member

    JaneDoe18

    the halacha permits walking within 4 amos if he is praying in a aisle/passageway…so walking in front of him is not a problem.

    #965421
    oomis
    Participant

    I’ll go you one better. I often come to shul to find that there is a man davening S”E in the vestibule (outside the main shul), where I must walk by, in order to get to the ladies’ section. I have also come to shul for a Pirkei Avos class (usually follows mincha by us) only to find men davening IN the ladies’ section, where I have to sit down. If they have not yet begun to daven I will go in and sit down, and if they have anything to say or glare at me, I gently remind them they are intruding on the ezras nashim.

    #965422
    midwesterner
    Participant

    Halacha states that a person must come into the shul 4 amos before davening. (Yeah I know there are other leshonos that learn that it means an expression of time and focus, but still it wouldn’t hurt anyone to observe the literal meaning .)

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