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Chanuka in 3rd Bais Hamikdash

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  • Started 1 year ago by Torah613Torah
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  1. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    In the 3rd Bais Hamikdash, will there be Chanuka?
    If so, how could they light 8 lights on the 7-branched Menorah?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    If so, how could they light 8 lights on the 7-branched Menorah?

    Why should it matter? The menorah in the BhM had nothing to do with Channukah. It was lit every day.

    If Channukah is to be commemorated in the times of the third BhM, we will probably lit menorah in our homes, just as we do now.

    The Wolf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    torah613613torah
    You can ask the question better, what did they do the year after chanukah?

    I think the Menorahs that chazal instituted for pirsumei nissah of chanukah were only in (front of) peoples homes. However in the mikdash which is not a private residence, they only light the regular 7 branch menorah.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    The Wolf: But wasn't the mitzva in every home? And isn't the BHMK our home?

    WIY - Thanks. Great question. Now I am really curious! How did they light the year after? Does anyone discuss it?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf


    The Wolf: But wasn't the mitzva in every home? And isn't the BHMK our home?

    No. We don't live in the BhM (as a residence).

    The Wolf

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    Thanks Wolf, that was a good answer.
    However, I'm also curious about what WIY mentioned, whether they lit the Menorah in the BHMK the year after the nes, and if so how they did it for 8 days.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. Curiosity
    Not a cat person

    T613, they didn't use the 7 branched Menorah to commemorate Chanukah. The Menorah was lit fully, each day, as a separate service of the Kohanim, and it has nothing to do with Chanukah. If there was any need to light a "Chanukiah" (8 branched menorah) in the BHM for Chanukah, like we do at shul, they would not have used the seven branched golden Menorah.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    Curiousity - I see. So when they lit the Menorah, they just lit it for 8 days, not building up to 8 the way we do now. When it was destroyed, is that when it started being done at home? Did they light a Chanukiya at home as well?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. 147
    -105

    Yesterday's Haftoro of "Roni vSimchi Bas Zion" is generally taken to be referring to the 3rd Bais-haMikdosh, in light of the fact that the prophesies being prophesied by Zechariah did not transpire during the 2nd Bais haMikdosh, so refer to Haftoro of Neiros Zechariah to answer you queries about Chanukah at the 3rd Bais haMikdosh.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    147 - that's interesting, but I personally found the haftorah hard to understand.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Curiosity
    Not a cat person

    T613, correct - they had enough oil for the 7 branched Menorah to last for a single day, but it lasted for 8 days. Thus, a flask which was supposed to fill 7 heads of the lamp filled 56 heads of the lamp. I am unsure when we historically started celebrating Chanukah, but I presume since it was to celebrate the miracle of winning the war, that it started the year immediately after the war was won - on the 25th of Kislev.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. midwesterner
    Member

    L'shana acheres kav'um va'asaum yomim tovim b'halel v'hoda'ah. - Shabbos 21b

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. 147
    -105

    torah613613torah
    147 - that's interesting, but I personally found the haftorah hard to understand.

    Rav Berel Wein shlita has a tape on the Haftoro of Beha'aloscho A.K.A. Chanukah.

    Curiosity I am unsure when we historically started celebrating Chanukah,
    The Nes occcured either in 165BCE or 164BCE.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    Thank you.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. Curiosity
    Not a cat person

    You are very welcome :)

    Posted 1 year ago #

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