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    yid1818
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    Chofeitz Chayim predicted that 25 Years after WW1 there will be WW2.
    Furthermore, he predicted that 75 Years later there will be a WW3 and then Moshiach will come.

    What do you think about this?

    #1486473

    Joseph
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    Is WWIII when Trump bombs North Korea?

    #1486487

    WolfishMusings
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    Chofeitz Chayim predicted that 25 Years after WW1 there will be WW2.
    Furthermore, he predicted that 75 Years later there will be a WW3 and then Moshiach will come.

    What do you think about this?

    Nothing.

    Seriously, enough predictions have been made about when Moshiach will arrive that have passed without his arrival that, for practical purposes, I don’t pay attention to any of them anymore.

    I simply await the day of his arrival. If he arrives on the day someone predicted him, then good and well. And if he doesn’t arrive then, then I will await the day he does arrive without worrying about anyone’s “predictions.”

    The Wolf

    #1486490

    yid1818
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    oh…and another question….is there any connection to Chafetz Chaim and the Zohar (Midrash Ne’elam – Toldot 140a) which says that Moshiach will come 210 years before the Year 6000

    => Chafetz Chaim – 5780
    => Zohar – 5790

    #1486493

    laskern
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    The Biur Halacha Hilchas Rosh Chodesh about the year תשמג -5743 -1983 writes at the end of Siman 427 ואין לנו לדאוג כל כך יותר כי בוודאי בעת ההיא
    .וגם הרבה קודם יהי הגאולה ונקדש על פי הראיה

    #1486498

    chugibugi
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    I think you need to take your medicines ,LOL

    #1486539

    laskern
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    yid1818, I see the number 210 which is the number of years that the Jews worked in mitzraim. It is determined from Yitzchok the difference between ישחק and יצחק. It says כימי צאתינו ממצרים אראנו נפלאות so we see that the final גאולה will be similar to mitzraim.

    #1486541

    laskern
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    The sefer עמודה שבעה compares it to a mikveh. A so comprises 144 eggs so 40 so is 5760. He said the world will be מטוהר, purified at that time.

    #1486561

    laskern
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    It says that it is forbidden to count תיפח עצמותיו so how can we count the time when Moshiach will come? Even the Ramban on אשר ברא אלקים לעשות calculates that Moshiach will come in the 5118. The Chasam Sofer explains that this was a suitable time, but we were not worthy of it.
    There is a story about someone took along his son and a guest to go to the market in Germany a place called Leipzig. When they started to travel, the son asks how much more do we need to travel? The father gets very upset and tells him, what are you asking me we just got on the wagon. They were traveling a few hours, when the guest was asking the same question. He answered him another hour. The son get upset saying why did you scream at me before when I asked the same question? The father said to him that at that time it was not
    appropriate to ask the question. The comparison is obvious that we in the akavta demoshicha so now it become time to ask.

    #1486733

    yid1818
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    I agree, there have been many predictions about Moshiach and they have not become true.

    But, the closer we get to the year 6000 the more likely Moshiach will come.
    When we see what is going on in the world then there are many signs that we are I a pre-messianic era

    #1486796

    CTRebbe
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    Do you have any source that the Chofaetz chaim really said this? If so he was off bec. WWII did not start 25 years after WWI

    #1486787

    laskern
    Participant

    Moshiach is suppose to come unexpected. I think that strengthens the recognizing of a miracle. The Maharal explains that when someone repeats some saying in the name of the sayer will bring the redemption. Hashem wants us to recognize His miracles and give credit for it. When we mention the name of the sayer, we are giving credit to him. So surely we will similarly give credit to Hashem for the redemption.

    #1486955

    Joseph
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    Yaakov Avinu tried to tell us when Moshiach would come. Hashem stopped him from saying.

    #1486959

    Phil
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    Where exactly did the Chofetz Chaim, zt”l, write that WWII would start 25 years after WWI and that WWIII would occur 75 years later? In 1930, R. Schwab, zt”l heard him say that he saw a destruction coming even more terrible than WWI but he never wrote or said anything more specific than that. The Biur Halacha was clearly his expressed hope, not his prediction.

    #1486990

    laskern
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    Joseph, look at the Klei Yokor in the beginning of Parshas Vaychi that the reason that he was held back from revealing the coming of moshiach because if people know that it won’t be in their time, they become meyaash and forget that they are in galus building fancy houses and thereby extending the time when he will come.

    #1487458

    yid1818
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    I read about the prediction of chofetz chaim in an article on brakingisraelnews.
    Just google prediction and chofetz chaim and you will find infos about it.

    by the way:
    ww1 started in 1914
    ww2 started in 1939
    so 25yrs

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