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the colored shirts thread got me thinking. all this obsession with colored clothing both on men and women. women dress for funerals, men look like penguins/black and white cookies.... you get my point. very boring, monochromatic, outdated (think B&W pictures). H' put millions of colors in the world for us to appreciate. yet go to a wedding and you see the kallah in white, the chosson in B&W, the mother-MIL-sisters-SIL-grandmother etc in colored gowns. the rest? the kallah's friends are in black, the chosson's friends are in suit and hat. the only color is the tie! for men ya i get they are supposed to wear a suit, but do the women need to dress so severe? there are other colors in the rainbow. navy is NOT flashy. neither is dark purple. cream is simple and elegant. when did it become taboo to wear color? why are people judged by there color shirt rather than who they are in essence? putting a white shirt on a boy who wears a light blue shirt wont make him part of yeshiva A, and putting a light green shirt on a yeshiva bachur doesnt suddenly change him into a working boy! its just ludecris. can we all take a step back and look past the color to the real essence of the person? (and while you are at it, appreciate all teh color around you). Thank you
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(steps shyly up to mike on podium)
Thank you. I couldn't have said it better.
Enjoy the colors of the world and be happy!
please refer to this thread, since this is a yeshivish blog, you are required to remain in the box;P!!!!
Rabbi Rakefet Rothkoff reports that when he was in Lakewood, Rav Nosson Wachtfogel ZT"L would not wear a black hat. It is a yeridas hadoros that people can't accept any colors other than black and white. Many men are to "frum" to wear adar blue suit. I can't find the halacha against it- not in my mishnah brurah.
"when did it become taboo to wear color?"
Honestly, I think it was the day someone said black makes you look thinner, lol.
i have followers :P
Just as far as your logic goes, I'm left a little confused. If you are saying that in order to appreciate the colors that Hashem created, one must dress in them, does that mean if a man would wear all the colors of the rainbow except pink or purple it shows he lacks appreciation for those colors? What about the non-visual spectrum? If someone doesn't use an x-ray on a regular basis, does that show he doesn't appreciate x-rays, ultraviolet, infrared?
Or perhaps there is room to say that it is possible to appreciate certain elements of Hashem's creation from afar? Such as by using red brick in your house or painting a room blue.
DH, interesting. didn't look from that perspective. on the men's side i was trying to say the color of the shirt doesn't define the man, not that he has to wear all colors. on the other side of the mechitza, there is no reason not to wear color. B"H there are many colors that are tznius and appropriate to wear. i wasnt really touching on the 'have to see it to appreciate it' part in regards to infrared and xray. i've been to many houses were there IS color on the walls, carpet, paintings etc but the females of the house dress in black. there seems to be a divide between color itself and wearing color. i'm not saying a women can't wear black but is it really necessary to dress so depressing? wear a colored shirt/sweater, wear colorful shoes, a headband.
solike, lol. i missed that
syag, could totally be. but who said thats true?
jothar, its not in my father's mishna berura either.
half, i prefer staying out of the box in this instance. i own 2 black sweaters, both of which i wear with a grey skirt.
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I've never used 'truth' and 'fashion' in the same sentence. I personally wear only black skirts because I am unable to match clothing. When my father (an artist) was alive I wore colors only after he confirmed that they worked together. But you are correct, in my sons Bar mitzvah pics everything is black or white except my purple shirt. I felt like Willy Wonka!
As I mentioned in the thread about colored shirts, I have seen it brought down in seforim that there are inyanim to wear black or/white clothing. I imagine that it is for those reasons that the minihag became to wear black.
I see the opposite of Jothar. I see that although there has definitely been a great yeridah in the depth of our learning, there has been an incredible aliyah in the quantity. I'm sure that we haven't seen such numbers of people learning on a regular basis since the times of the gemorah. It could be that since there are so many more "mini"-talmidei chachomim (as opposed to a few major-talmidei chachamim) the minhag spread more thoroughly to follow these inyanim that are brought in seforim.
Think about it. If 3 out of 10 people read about "A", then they may be the only ones follow it. But if 7 out of 10 people read about "A" then you will likely find all 10 people doing it.
soliek: "teh" i have followers :P
you must have started using auto-correct, because I haven't noticed any teh's since you left your subtitle behind.
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