Commemorating Mosheh Rabbenu for Zayin Ador

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  • #1474253
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Baal Haturim says that in the current Parshe Tetzaveh Mosheh Rabbenu’s name is not mentioned. But I heard that it is implied at the end of the parshe. ‘יכפר עליו לדרתיכם קודש קדשים הוא לה the first letters of this verse add up to Mosheh. He will ask forgiveness for us in future generations.

    #1474271
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Baal Haturim explains that Mosheh Rabbenu’ s name is not mentioned in Parshas Tetzaveh because he asked to be erased from your book you wrote. It looks like this is a punishment. It could be that this is a commemoration of his greatness. His two outstanding character traits are his compassion and humility. This could commemorate both as this statement above was said for the forgiveness of the Bnei Yisroel of the sin of the golden calf. It also indicates his humility feeling that he is not worthy to be mentioned. The GRA says that this commemorates his yahr zeit which is every year at Parshas Tetzaveh.

    #1474318
    Reb Eliezer
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    The Ohr Hachaim in the beginning of Parshas Tetzaveh says that next redemption will come because of the zechus of Mosheh Rabbenu. Learning Torah lishmah will bring Moshiach. Could be that is why his name is not mentioned. The Gemora says that Haman did not know that Mosheh Rabbenu died on 7th of Ador and he was born on the 7th of Ador. That he died on 7th of Ador he knew? The simple explanation is died then because he was born then, but the Yaaros Dvash says that right away when he died he was reborn. We get the strength to be mechadesh from Mosheh Rabbenu. It could be his name is not mentioned because this strength is hidden.

    #1474330
    Reb Eliezer
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    Mosheh Rabbenu said to Yisro כי יהיה להם דבר בא אלי it should have said באים in plural, but the Chasan Sofer explains that Mosheh Rabbenu said to yisro, their concern comes to my heart and I have to act on it.

    #1474355
    Reb Eliezer
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    The light of Moshe Rabbenu might relate to Mordechai who lit up the Jews through whom they accepted the Torah with their full heart. נתמלא הבית כלו אורה like it says היתה אורה ושמחה.

    #1836664
    Reb Eliezer
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    Let us remember zayin ador as mentioned above, the strength of Moshe Rabbenu to be mechadesh something and the mapalah of Haman ym’s which happened in the zachus of Moshe Rabbenu.

    #1947901
    Reb Eliezer
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    There is an implication in Parashas Tetzaveh which I heard from Rav Moshe Meir Weiss’ Shlita grand father ztz’l that the last words’ of the parasha from yechaper alav beginning letters gematriah add up to Mosheh 10+70+30+100+100+5+30=345. He will pray for forgiveness in the future generations as mentioned above.

    #1947910
    WolfishMusings
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    So, why is Moshe’s name not in Parshas Nitzavim?

    (Yes, I know I’m an apikores for even asking this question)

    The Wolf

    #1947943
    Reb Eliezer
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    Wolf, don’t degrade yourself. Your kashye is a good one and I think both the Targum Yanoson, Chezkuni and the Rashbam allude to it. The Targum Yanoson includes his name and the Chezkuni, Rashbam explains it further that it refers to the end of Parashas Ki Savo from Shvii and this parasha is just a continuation and the beginning of the parasha is just a resting point.

    #1949150
    jackk
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    Nitzavim and Vayalech can also be considered one parshah. They are almost always read together.

    #1949262
    Reb Eliezer
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    It should be mentioned in tbe beginning of the parashah not tbe end.

    #1949354
    jackk
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    RE.

    Who said the klal of the beginning of the parsha?

    #1949380
    Reb Eliezer
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    jakk, maybe you are right as Parashas Tzaveh I indicated has the implication at the end. Look at the Targum Yanoson for Nitzavim mentioned above. A proof to tbe Rishonim above is that in between Ki Savo and Nitzavim the parashiyos are pesuach with tbree pehs also between Nitzavim and Vayelech.

    #2058967
    Reb Eliezer
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    As Parashas Tetzaveh falls on Adar I, so let us remember Moshe Rabbenu which has a gematria of 613 with Rabbenu having a yud.

    #2059122
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Reb eliezer,

    Is moshe rabbeinu’s yahrtzeit in Adar aleph or Adar beis?

    #2059128
    Reb Eliezer
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    It is Adar Beis but I pointed out that the GRA says that Moshe’s Rabbenu name is not mentioned in Tetzaveh because mostly it falls on his Yahr Zeit and to commemorate him. His Yahr Zeit is related to Purim as Haman did not know that he was born also on Zayin Adar. The Yaaros Devash says that Zayin Adar he was reborn as when we are mechadesh something we use his strength and that is hidden.

    #2059200
    Gadolhadorah
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    Where is the inyan of there being an Adar A and Adar B first mentioned in Tanach or was it brought down later by chazal? My vague recollection is references to a chodesh by the number (aka 7th month) or in the context of other naarative where the time is known (aka h’chodesh hazeh lachem rosh chadashim). But where do we find the first reference to Tishrei , Adar Aleph etc.

    #2059283
    BY1212
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    GH. Adar a and b is learned from ניסן being called חודש האביב. It always needs to be in the spring. So every now and then the month closest to Nissan is doubled in order to make sure that indeed Nissan deosnt become ,a חודש of חורף.

    #2059267
    BY1212
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    GH. The names we use for months come from בבל. And are first found in דניאל. Also in מגילת אסתר it says בחודש שנים עשר הוא חודש אדר. I think it mentions החדש העשירי הוא חודש טבת as well and בחודש הראשון הוא חדש ניסן.

    #2059243
    BY1212
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    Thank you RE for these beautiful divrei Torah.

    Re the kashya from nitzovim.

    What about breishis-shmos.

    אלא מאי, it wasn’t shayyach to say Moshe bc he wasn’t part of the story. So too, parshas nitzovim is just a continuation of moshes speech to klal Yisroel and there was simply no reason to mention his his name.

    The whole kashya from tetzaveh לכאורה, is bc it is a bunch of commands from Hashem to Moshe – no diff than Terumah, and plutzling and on contradistinction no more וידבר ה’ אל משה לאמר.

    Just a strange transition to אתה תצוה. And ועשית this and ועשית that.

    Always keep it as simple as possible.

    #2059247
    Reb Eliezer
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    It is because of Pesach being in the spring, Chadesh Haaviv being close to Pesach? It is done 7 times in the 19 year cycle 3,6,8.11,14,17,19, guchadzut, גוחדזט. It is pasuk in Zecharya (8,19) Tzom Harvi.

    #2059251
    Reb Eliezer
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    Besides the Torah calls months in Parashas Pinchas by numbers. The gemora in Megilla (6,2) says that Hashenis means the second Adar.

    #2059257
    BY1212
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    Just looked again and it could be i missed it but it seems that Moshe is not mentioned in Ekev, Re’eh, Shoftim and Ki Seitzei.

    But what I wrote earlier doesn’t work too good bc, וידבר ה’ אל משה לאמר is just used once at the beginning of תרומה. The rest is ועשית, this ועדות that.

    So that לכאורה diminishes the need for a וידבר משה at the beginning of תצוה.

    Unless you want to say the etzem beginning of a parshas, but that’s shver to say bc מהיכי תחתי that the parshiois hashavua imply an automotive disruption in עניין that requires a new וידבר.

    אדרבה, tetzaveh conceptually is just a continuation of ענייני משכן.

    Unless the need for ה’ to say ואתה or ואתה תצוה, i.e. the ציווי aspect implies some new thing.

    It’s probably the ואתה part of it as we never see this formulation used in the beginning of a דיבור. And here is is used three times in a row 2 at the beginning of a parsha and one in the middle.

    In any case it’s still not קלאר.

    #2059311
    Gadolhadorah
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    BY1212; Thanks…I wouldn’t have know the Daniel reference but embarrassed that I didn’t remember the clear references in the Megillah.

    #2059366
    charliehall
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    Some sources interpret Divrei Hayamim 30:2 to mean that Chizkiyahu HaMelech intercalated a second Adar — but later than he was supposed to.

    #2067912
    Reb Eliezer
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    We commemorate the Yahr Zeit of Moshe Rabbenu on the second Adar because it is related to Purim. Haman ym’s did not know that he was niftar on zayin adar as he was also born that day.

    #2068318

    Charlie, Mishna Pesachim mentions this as one of the things Rabbis did not approve of Chizkiahu. That was from the time when it was possible to have leaders who did both great things and mistakes. Baruch Hashem, we live in greater times.

    #2169932
    Reb Eliezer
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    bump

    #2170170

    R Twersky quotes R Sorotskin that Torah davka does not mention Moshe’s name around his yohrtzeit because Hashem does not want us to have Hero worship. So, all the discussions trying to find Moshe’s name in the parsha seem counter-productive.

    #2172939
    takahmamash
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    I used to be part of a chevra kadisha on the yishuv where we used to live, and we fasted on zayin Adar, had a big shiur, davened mincha as a ta’anit, and broke our fast on goodies after arvit. It was nice, as the whole group participated, men and women, and it’s about the only time the entire chevra kadisha got together as one group.

    #2172971
    Sam Klein
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    If all klal yisroel joined together and fasted with serious Teshuva for just a few days then we can all merit to personally meet our most humble leader Moshe Rabbeinu and in Eretz yisroel where he was never zoche to enter even with fasting for over 40 days and hundreds of tefillos from the biggest Navi who was the only human being holy enough to speak to Hashem face to face.

    #2269603
    Reb Eliezer
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    Mods, I asked this.to be bumped. Please bump this topic.

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