October 9, 2017 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #1379702
How did I live so long without learning the meaning of the word, “credenza”?
Also, “sideboard” … because before last week, everything to me was a “cabinet” (and I still haven’t inserted the word “credenza” into my vocab).
Furniture shopping… chinuch!
Thank you 🙂October 9, 2017 9:08 pm at 9:08 pm #1379733
Sideboard a/k/a Buffet
Breakfront a/k/a China Cabinet a/k/a Hutch
Sofa a/k/a Couch a/a Chesterfield
Etagere a/k/a Room Divider a/k/a wall unit
The fancier the name the higher the price
Originally, these words meant different things: e/g/ A Breakfront has drawers and/or cabinets below and glass fronted doors to shelves above. The lines of the front are broken…the center section may protrude several inches further from the wall from the side sections. A china cabinet will be all the same depth and usually only one (or one set) of doors. A hutch will be open shelving on top. But today they are used interchangeably.
Mrs. CTL is a designer. I have education by osmosisOctober 9, 2017 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #1379735
I grew up with a credenza. If your parents didn’t own one why would use the word?October 9, 2017 9:21 pm at 9:21 pm #1379743
A silver filled credenza
Is a sign of affluenza
But a chesterfield is for one whose birth
Occurred when dinosaurs roamed the earthOctober 9, 2017 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #1379762
Thanks everyone… and yes, oops sorry, I spelled credenza incorrectly in the title (and this time it was on my laptop… so it really was my mistake) ☺October 9, 2017 9:47 pm at 9:47 pm #1379763
Whoa CTLAWYER!!! I just got furniture overload there, with your post.
Still processing your additional vocabulary. Lol. Thank you ☺October 9, 2017 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #1379769
This is a little known fact: When I was a kid, my parents owned a furniture store. It was a short-lived business endeavor.
Afterward, our home absorbed the unsold furniture. We definitely had a credenza, or few, located around the house. It was just that no one talked about them.
You know, we stuffed the shelves, making good use of the furniture. Meanwhile, we didn’t discuss it.
From what I recall, we referred to our furniture by the color of the piece, or its location in our home.
For example, Pesach dishes went on that shelf in the yellow cabinet (likely a credenza, and definitely with an attached hutch).
Tupperware belonged inside the middle upper shelf of the blue baker’s rack).
And now you know a bit more of what my colorful childhood looked like… ☺October 10, 2017 1:03 pm at 1:03 pm #1379851
The Chesterfield Sofa was originally designed in the mid 18th century. It has rolled back the same height as its rolled arms and is usually button tufted.
The main section of the CTL home was built in 1803 and has many period appropriate pieces. Our 2nd floor has only 7 foot ceilings. There is a Chesterfield in the sitting room. A high back sofa would be out of scale.
BTW>>>>I also own a Chesterfield Coat for winter dress wear.
We don’t keep Silver in the credenza…it’s in the foyer and holds gloves in the top drawers, and attaches, brief and mah jongg cases in the lower cabinets. Silver is in the breakfront and butler’s pantry.October 10, 2017 1:06 pm at 1:06 pm #1379889
I’ve only heard of credenzas in the realm of office furniture. I looked it up on staples.com and found 934 items.October 10, 2017 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #1379999
A somewhat interesting explanation of the name’s origin, from Wikipedia:
“Originally in Italian the name meant belief (etymologically connected to the English word “credence”). In the 16th century the act of credenza was the tasting of food and drinks by a servant for a lord or other important person (such as the pope or a cardinal) in order to test for poison. The name may have passed then to the room where the act took place, then to the furniture.”
[posted from my Attilla the Hun desk chair]October 11, 2017 1:04 am at 1:04 am #1380142
Thanks DovidBT for your research! 🙂
When did attempts at poisoning people become less popular? How did people decide that, “Okay now it’s safe for us to simply eat the food that we’ve been served”?
Maybe it was a generational divide? Like, “Oh, having servants sample our food? No way. We’re independent, so we’ll eat on our own”?October 15, 2017 1:52 am at 1:52 am #1380584
AMAZING: The other day, my neighbor told me that she’s looking for a desk, but not just any desk, one “that has a credenza”!!!
It was like Hashem and I were having an inside joke, knowing that just a couple days prior, this thread was created… and here I was now, knowing about credenzas.
Yays 🙂October 15, 2017 10:18 am at 10:18 am #1380621
Maybe the neighbor is afraid that someone is trying to poison her?
“When did attempts at poisoning people become less popular?”
How do you know that poisoning has become less popular? The White House, for example, does not permit arbitrary food to be brought in from the outside; security checks are required.October 15, 2017 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #1381239
Poisoning did become less popular as the number of leadership positions that passed down to the next in line decreased.October 15, 2017 7:38 pm at 7:38 pm #1381260
DovidBT: You mean the president never got the homemade chocolate chip cookies I sent him?
Omgosh… and it was from my Bubbe’s secret recipe book! They’re to die for, but not literally.
Alas, I really ought to write the president, and ask for my $38 back to cover the ingredients and shipping costs, let alone make up for my broken heart.October 15, 2017 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #1381280
Bonnetiere!October 15, 2017 9:30 pm at 9:30 pm #1381290
Who buys expensive used indoor wood furniture from someone who took photographed the furniture out in their lawn? Or driveway? And/or it’s chilling somewhere in some murky climate-chaotic garage?
Is it just me, but putting indoor wood furniture outdoors, in rampant humidity, is a dealbreaker?October 15, 2017 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #1381335
Who answers wordy questions with horrible grammar?October 15, 2017 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #1381336
Who spends more than $500 on indoor wood furniture that was placed outdoors, and exposed to a posse of critters and humidity?
Even if the piece is worth more on paper, it was outside in a funky yard.
Maybe if you’re sealing the entire thing in wax, for your home wax museum —and even then, like seriously?
Thank you ☺October 15, 2017 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #1381343
Is the price negotiable?October 15, 2017 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #1381359
It was negotiable. The piece was priced higher, and the seller went down to $500.October 16, 2017 12:13 am at 12:13 am #1381382October 17, 2017 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #1384795
Here’s one listed for $895, and it’s out in someone’s driveway! Solid wood antique. That’s a lot of money, and no assurances that the humidity or insects didn’t get to it. Where is it being stored in the meantime?
Yes, I know that people buy furniture in garage sales and such. Just a lot of money, and I don’t feel comfortable knowing that the furniture, which I cannot wipe down like glass or formica, was chilling (or not chilling) outdoors.
Am I the only one here?October 18, 2017 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1386538
Adding to CTLAWYER’s list because I found a new one today (“server”) listed online that is being used interchangeably with “credenza” as well as a few other terms.
Home Furniture Vocab Chinuch…. thanks to CTLAWYER for contributing so greatly to this list!!
BonnetiereOctober 18, 2017 9:09 pm at 9:09 pm #1386619
Sideboards, Buffets, Servers, Consoles are made to stand against a wall and unfinished on the rear. They do not have storage above the counter level (usually not taller than 41″
A wall unit is not finished on the rear and is placed back to the wall,
An Etagere is finished on all sides and is often used freestanding as a room divider
In addition to sofa, couch and Chesterfield, is Divan and Chaise Longue (long, not lounge).
Shorter couches (2 places) may be called Settees or Love SeatsOctober 19, 2017 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #1387371
And then there are futons 😄
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