December 14, 2012 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #607437
If a couple divorced, does that necessarily demonstrate that they lacked shalom bayis?December 14, 2012 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #913347
Usually; but I can think of exceptions based on halachic considerations.December 14, 2012 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #913348
Nah, sometimes it’s just that they were hypnotized accidentally while watching a magic show, and had their memories switched, so that they think they didn’t have shalom bayis, but really they did.
That’s why any competent rav would ask if they have been to a magic show lately before granting a divorce.December 14, 2012 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #913349
Yeah, that too.December 14, 2012 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #913350
DaasYochid: Those halachicly required divorces you are referring to are generally speaking, too, an indication of a lack of sholom bayis.December 14, 2012 4:05 pm at 4:05 pm #913351
DaasYochid: Those halachicly required divorces you are referring to are generally speaking, too, an indication of a lack of sholom bayis.
Not where he’s a kohen.December 14, 2012 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #913352
Nah!!! Of course it’s not an indication of lack of Shalom Bayis! Don’t all healthy couples who love each other get divorced???December 14, 2012 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #913353
the way you posed the original question is a misnomer. its like asking is it always true that one who sits in the dark has no light in his room. but if you mean can two people who loved and may still love each other get divorced, i think most will agree, yes. (but love is only one part of sholom bayis.)December 14, 2012 5:37 pm at 5:37 pm #913354
Popa, correct. Or if they are childless after ten years, although for some reason, that’s usually not kept (I think Rivash addresses this).December 14, 2012 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #913355
Kohanim is usually not kept either. The Kohen usually says he “doesn’t believe it”, and even if it is true he can stay married.December 14, 2012 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #913356
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Or a soldier who dies and they wrote a get to work lemafraiya.December 14, 2012 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #913357
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(or if he’s mia)December 14, 2012 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #913358
Or a goses w/o kids gives a get if brother wouldn’t give chalitza to the widow.December 15, 2012 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #913359
no they lacked carrots.December 16, 2012 1:45 am at 1:45 am #913360
yeah, or maybe she just double-dared him toDecember 16, 2012 3:03 am at 3:03 am #913361
Does starvation indicate a lack of food?December 16, 2012 6:13 am at 6:13 am #913362
The Gemora and Shulchan Aruch talks about divorcing a wife for burning dinner or even finding a prettier wife, examples that may be non shalom Bahia issues.December 16, 2012 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #913363
Naysberg -“If a couple divorced, does that necessarily demonstrate that they lacked shalom bayis?”
In my case there wasn’t so much Sholom Bayis and I’m divorced, but the honest truth is I know couples much worse than I was with Sholom Bayis and are still married.December 17, 2012 3:26 am at 3:26 am #913364
What is the purpose of the Talmud allowing divorce over burnt food? Do the rabbis really want so many divorces and such pressure put on women?
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