falling asleep to Acapella

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    Student of Torah
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    According to those Poskim who hold you can listen to music during the year, it is forbidden to fall asleep and wake up to music (R’ Moshe Feinstein maybe?). My question is: may one do so with Acapella music?

    #1152918
    popa_bar_abba
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    Only during sefira

    #1152919
    Sam2
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    SoT: It’s a Rama, not R’ Moshe. According to that, a capella should be Muttar because we define it as “not music”. (That is leaving aside those Poskim who hold that a capella that is made to sound professional does count as music. According to them, it would be Assur.)

    #1152920
    feivel
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    “According to them, it would be Assur”

    Not necessarily, at least the falling asleep part.

    There are Poskim who permit even recorded actual instrumental music for certain physical and psychological needs. for example: exercise for health, or depression. I would imagine if someone was used to falling asleep to music and found it difficult to do so without it, those Poskim would permit. I would think.

    #1152921
    B1g B0y
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    “It’s a rama, not R’ Moshe”

    The RAMA was R’ MOSHE Isserles

    #1152922
    Sam2
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    feivel: If that’s not exactly what the Rama was Assering, I don’t know what is. Either way, that’s not a Heter based on the Shaila, that’s a side-Heter that might trump any music Issur in the first place.

    #1152923
    feivel
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    I don’t understand your heter side-heter point here.

    The poster asked a shaila: is it permitted to fall asleep to acapella music.

    You said according to X it would be assur.

    I said not necessarily. Many poskim who hold like X would not assur it in this case.

    Two answers to his question

    Sam assur

    Feivel not necessarily

    #1152924
    Sam2
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    feivel: His question pre-supposed that listening to music while going to sleep was Assur. If that’s the assumption, then he’s clearly not utilizing a psychological necessity Heter. Otherwise, the point of discussion would not be a capella.

    #1152925
    feivel
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    Aha.

    I see your point.

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