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June 20, 2017 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1300120ubiquitinParticipant
On a different thread NC wrote
“On a side note, what she said about cold dishes is correct. I think there’s a tendency of some MO people to eat even hot food off of treif utensils if the food itself is kosher (not saying this is mainstream). I don’t want to derail this thread too much though.”http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rumor-about-ivanka-trump/page/2/#post-1299628
I do want to point out. (though not there since it is well off topic) That there isnt technically anything wrong with eating cold food on treif dishes
Furthermore, strictly speaking even a Goy cooking Kosher food in trefi keilim that are eino ben yomo (and a “Stam kli” is eino ben yomo) isnt assur as there is no gezeira of eino ben yomo uto ben yomo for a Goy.
However R’ Moshe in a teshuva established kashrus policy adhered to by all major hashgachos not to certify such a situation as it is “mechuar hadavar”
June 20, 2017 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #1300127ubiquitinParticipantOh no! I put the link the bad way.
Im sorry.Fixed
June 20, 2017 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1300369☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHe said even hot food. (I have no idea how prevalent it is.)
June 20, 2017 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm #1300452ubiquitinParticipantOf course worth noting is the issur of Bishul Akkum, though that is rather easily remedied especially for Ashkenazim
June 20, 2017 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #1300519ubiquitinParticipant“He said even hot food.”
Like you I am not familliar with this arrangement , and needless to say I am not advocating for it.
Though again as mentioned Even with hot food , IF the Goy cooks it (and it isnt bishul akkum and he doesnt instruct the GOy to cook it, though I cant think of a scenario that would allow for both of these critical caveats)
It would seem that Me’ikar hadin it still wouldnt automaticly be assurJune 20, 2017 4:39 pm at 4:39 pm #1301015☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI don’t think we can apply “stam keilim einom b’nei yoman” in a restaurant or catering establishment, where the keilim are used daily for treif food.
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