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During our Chol Hamoed trips with our children, I saw something that really bothered me. It seems that a lot of frum pre/teenage girls like to play on Dance Revolution machines at the Arcades. I do know if the girls realize it is a problem, if the arcades are not exclusively rented out just to girls, that men will watch them dance. I saw frum girls dancing on these games and men, including Goyim were watching them. I specifically saw a goyish male standing watching a girl and then I realized this is a very serious problem. I think that Parents and Teachers should inform the girls that it is a problem and they should not be on them and they are dancing in front of men. I was wondering if any one else felt the same way about this situation.
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Frum Girls Dancing on the Dance Dance Revolution at Arcades
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Posted 11 months ago #
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yup mazal, u r right on target. i myself happen to LOVE dance dance revolution, but after dancing on one in an arcade and convincing myself no one was watching and then realizing afterwards that heck, who am i kidding, i kinda had to stop. for those who are hard to convince, there are home versions that connect to playstation, xbox, wii, etc that are actualy really good.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Based on your post, I discussed this a few minutes ago with my wife and kids - they were in an arcade on Chol HaMoed. Mrs. YW Moderator-72 noticed this also. She told our girls that they are not allowed on this game. Good Post.
Posted 11 months ago # -
...interesting. i never thought of that.
not that it changes much, but ok.Posted 11 months ago # -
ye i also noticed it. in toys r us they have a machine, and i saw alot of frum girls, i thought it was very not tzniusdig.
Posted 11 months ago # -
mazal, you should write it to the yated, it'll reach a larger audience. oh, btw, glad to have ya back!
mod 72, Mrs. 72, wouldn't happen to be mazal... maybe 77 was the number on her jersey?
Mazal and Mrs. 72 are not the same person - not to say that Mrs. 72 does not have a whole lot of Mazel to actually be Mrs. 72! :o) YW Moderator-72
Posted 11 months ago # -
mazal, I'm with you on this one hundred percent. Some really don't realize while others just plain couldn't care less.
Posted 11 months ago # -
i personally dont think its so bad because its not real dancin and while your dancin you cant see the people lookin at you!!!i love dancin and became really good at the game and i dont think im gonna stop doing it unless you give me a really good reason y its so bad if im never gonna see these men again if their some goy off the street???
Posted 11 months ago # -
I am about to shock some of you. I agree that this is totally inappropriate.
Posted 11 months ago # -
wow, i've b''h never seen this, but sure doesn't sound that great to me!
Translation - I go to arcades all the time to watch girls dance.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Believer- it's not that u don't see pple but that pple. see ya. that's why a bas melech isn't really allowed to wear something revealing because than they'll attract attention. and wat difference does it make if you ever see them again. you're still giving them an impression of a jewish frum girl.
Posted 11 months ago # -
where are my posts going
when you have something worth approving, you will see it on the big board, until then, they are all in deleteville. If you keep asking, I will go back and delete previously approved posts of yours. :o) YW Moderator-72
Posted 11 months ago # -
Agree 100%
Funny Story - I was doing dance revolution once (I'm a guy) and some frum teenage girl came over and stood really close and started sticking her foot out to do the ones that were near her.
Talk about awkward!
Posted 11 months ago # -
Believer, there are jewish men around,too. If the place was rented out exclusively to girls, then it wouldn't be a problem. Everyone see's you dancing at these arcades. And though you can't see the people looking out, and if you were one of the girls who was dancing, I can tell you, I was watching some of those men who may have been looking at you, and trust me, If it were me, I would NOT want people looking at me. If I danced in public like that, on those games. It's not like I am at a wedding with a mechitzah and a man purposely comes to watch, that would not be my fault, but in this case, where you are in the public eye, then a girl who dances on these machines are at fault. If you enjoy dancing, join a all-girls dance group and dance in private, not public. I love to dance myself, but there is a time and place for everything, and the Dance Revloution games are totally in appropriate for a frum girl to be on.
Posted 11 months ago # -
believer
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ye i also noticed it. in toys r us they have a machine, and i saw alot of frum girls, i thought it was very not tzniusdig.Posted 3 hours ago
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believer
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i personally dont think its so bad because its not real dancin and while your dancin you cant see the people lookin at you!!!i love dancin and became really good at the game and i dont think im gonna stop doing it unless you give me a really good reason y its so bad if im never gonna see these men again if their some goy off the street???Posted 2 hours ago
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you wrote
i thought it was very not tzniusdig.
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i personally dont think its so badCare to explain?
Posted 11 months ago # -
72: We desperately need a shrink in this place, immediately. What's with all the recent cases of MPD?
Posted 11 months ago # -
why are you telling me? Tell charlie brown to find Lucy
Posted 11 months ago # -
hey i though squeak was the cr shrink!?
Posted 11 months ago # -
72- now's probably a good time to start implementing a mandatory psych screening...
Posted 11 months ago # -
beacon: brilliant, i hope everyone passes with flying colors! you know like people who fail tests in preschool like the hearing test, cause they were too lazy to raise their hand when hey heard the sound!
Posted 11 months ago # -
mods, you are mods, and not bloggers!!!!
Posted 11 months ago # -
hi there! i've been checking out various jewish websites and happened to come across this one and decided to join the coffee room.this particular thread caught my eye and i was reading about you guys saying you all need a shrink(by the way-i do not like this derogotory name used to describe this proffesion that really does wonders to people). my name is Dr. blank(i won't give out my name on this forum) and would like to be of help to those in need. i'm here-it's good to get it all out sometimes.
Posted 11 months ago # -
ok we're been busted by a real shrink! we're in trouble!
Posted 11 months ago # -
shrink: Finally a shrink to help us out with the cr addiction ;)
As for the whole girls on the DDR. If you really feel the need you can tell them its not tznius but dont do it in front of other people (especially if there are nonjews around) and dont push it, say it once and then move on.
Posted 11 months ago # -
hi shrink. in fact you are so welcome here, we should say hi 100 times!
Posted 11 months ago # -
"I am about to shock some of you. I agree that this is totally inappropriate."
I agree! However, each girl really has to make the decision for herself on how she wants to act in public.
Now, lets add some fuel to the fire - how do you all feel about girls playing sports in public parks?
Posted 11 months ago # -
I also can't believe I agree that this is not proper--if you believe you're not allowed to dance in front of guys, why is it okay to do it on a machine? (I'm not saying I haven't done it...but I don't represent a certain type of person.)I think that if a girl is dressed very religious, it looks worse than if she looks MO. Not sure why, maybe it's a double standard, or maybe it's becuase you'd expect differently from a person dressed a certain way.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Kapusta - care to explain what you meant that that was for me?
Posted 11 months ago # -
Lucy asked me to tell everyone that she is NOT the user "shrink". She has been offering mental health help since before shrink was born and still only charges 5 cents. (hey, I just noticed there's no "cents" symbol on the keyboard). Come in for an appointment with the original and best!
Posted 11 months ago # -
I saw this to! There were bochurim sitting and watching two girls dancing in a very provocotive (don't mind spelling) way :(
Posted 11 months ago # -
Now, lets add some fuel to the fire - how do you all feel about girls playing sports in public parks?
If they are dressed appropriately and wearing good supportive sports garments underneath, I say go for it! Why should only the boys have fun?
Posted 11 months ago # -
What might be wrong, is for girls to be playing in public where they can accidentally get uncovered. A closed gym would be a better option.
Posted 11 months ago # -
Kodosh daughters of Hashem, dancing in public in front of men
appropriate vs inappropriate?it is Assur
it is a Toevah
it is a Chillul HashemPosted 11 months ago # -
Thank you, Feivel.
Posted 11 months ago # -
i hate to add even MORE fuel to the fire, but my sister won't even go ice skating. ICE SKATING! she said that a teacher said it's not tzniyus and that it's like dancing.
Posted 11 months ago # -
she said that a teacher said it's not tzniyus and that it's like dancing.
Technically, women are meant to be in the home, so even walking outside is not recommended.
Posted 11 months ago # -
charlie brown
Member
(hey, I just noticed there's no "cents" symbol on the keyboard).There's also no "cents" in blogging. Coincidence?
Posted 11 months ago # -
feivel- shkoyach!! That was well said. Nothing more, nothing less- in true feivel fashion. You give Hashem so much nachas.
Posted 11 months ago # -
sjs - right. which means that this teacher should be at home changing dirty diapers.
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