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  • #602480

    yoya
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    I know someone who knows some cops and therefor he has several PBA cards. But how unethical is it that if we both get pulled over for the same thing, he has more of a chance of getting let off than me who has no police connections? How is this allowed in America where it is grossly unfair that you can get off based on connections even if one is commiting an offense? I find this to be quite disturbing….

    #1117874

    TheGoq
    Participant

    How does one get a Popa Bar Abba card??

    #1117875

    yoya
    Member

    PBA stands for patrolmen’s benevolent association.

    #1117876

    TheGoq
    Participant

    Who wants to trade cards with me i got doubles on Baal Habooze and Coffee Addict? what will you give me?

    #1117877

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I give them out on purim.

    #1117879

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    You dont “get out of tickets” from having a PBA card.

    the Cops know people who have that dont get a ticket

    And its not Chilul Hashem to try to fight a ticket. There are plenty of legitimate ways to beat tickets , perfectly legal

    #1117880

    BITTLE ZMAN
    Participant

    I’ve had PBA and DEA cards for years. Unless there’s an officers name and number on the back they are only helpful for minor infractions. Displayed on the windshield they may help with minor parking offenses. It’s not a “get out of jail free” card.

    #1117881

    gabie
    Member

    BITTLE: How did you get them? And what is a DEA card?

    #1117882

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Anybody have a yossi z. rookie card?

    #1117883

    check ebay. you can buy my entire collection of autographed mod-72 cards from original poster to rookie mod to trainer mod to retired mod. place your bids today!

    #1117884

    postal
    Member

    Anyone who would like a PBA card, can buy one on eBay. (They are not a government document and it is not issued to any party, and is entirely legal.)

    #1117885

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    I have a very rare mint condition card commemorating the 1000th post in General Shmooze. It has a picture of Joseph on the front and squeak on the back. I am putting it up on ebay for a starting bid of $42,000,000,000.

    #1117886

    rosewood
    Member

    If you get pulled over the officer normally asks what the officers name is, how you know him, and were he is a cop. Just to make sure you didn’t just get a card and that you are actually friendly with the officer.

    #1117887

    DFL
    Member

    “But how unethical is it that if we both get pulled over for the same thing, he has more of a chance of getting let off than me who has no police connections?”

    yoya: please ask yourself whether you would care about this if you had a popa-bar-abba card

    #1117888

    Derech
    Member

    The officer who originally gave the card has his name and badge number on the card. So you just look at the name before you show it to the cop who pulled you over.

    #1117889

    rosewood
    Member

    Derech-yea but you have to know it before the cop pulls you over.

    #1117890

    Think first
    Member

    I’ve been pulled over and showed the cop my sherrifs “PBA” card, which I got because they sent me a letter saying, “send us twenty bucks and we’ll send u a card (I sent them 20 bucks once and get a updated card every year for a few years now) and he said,” alright, I won’t give u a ticket, just slow down”

    So it does work people, and it isn’t signed at all however it does come with my name actually printed (like by a computer) on it and looks pretty official. However sometimes I’ve gotton tickets even though I showed it so, its can help.

    #1117891

    cinderella
    Member

    I have one of these. Never used it though. Not because I never pulled over but because I just forgot about it.

    Also, cops are intimidating. I’m just supposed to give a big smile and say “Oh, you can’t give me a ticket! I have this!”?

    #1117892

    Think first
    Member

    Cindereall- what u do is when they as for ur license and reg. You give them those two plus the PBA card on top of the license. You don’t say anything about it.

    #1117893

    Avi K
    Participant

    This is not only unethical but if some enterprising ADA gets wind of it you might wind up in a heap of trouble. There is a criminal case being heard now in Bronx County Supreme Court involving police officers and PBA officials.

    #1117894

    apushatayid
    Participant

    PBA cards and stickers. No self respecting macher should be without them.

    #1117895

    Goq +1! LOL

    #1117897

    TheGoq
    Participant

    Thank you wanderingchana!

    #1117898

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    It seems that YWN is defiantly not posting the story about the people in Ohio who found $3 million worth of baseball cards in their aunt’s attic. I’m sure there were some PBA cards as well as a special edition OneOfMany snort card with rainbow colored hair.

    #1117899

    theObvious
    Member

    cinderella- when they ask you for your license and registration, you slip the pba or sba card and ya say “seargent so and so says i should give you this” and it all works from there:)

    #1117900

    Does anybody have the YW Moderator-42 card? You know the one with the fangs.

    #1117901

    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Moski, I think you’re mixing me up with Toi.

    #1117902

    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    If you show a mod your PBA card, does he approve your post?

    ….Or, does he delete your post?

    #1117903

    How do we know Toi didn’t become a mod?

    #1117904

    Health
    Participant

    Think first -“I’ve been pulled over and showed the cop my sherrifs “PBA” card, which I got because they sent me a letter saying, “send us twenty bucks and we’ll send u a card (I sent them 20 bucks once and get a updated card every year for a few years now) and he said,” alright, I won’t give u a ticket, just slow down”

    This has nothing to do with the PBA card. Some cops are just nice. If you’d apologize and act innocent they wouldn’t give you a ticket either. I’ve been pulled over many times and I hardly ever got a ticket.

    I’ve been in locker rooms with cops and this is one of the topics they talk about. One cop said -“I take the PBA card and rip it up and shove it somewhere (I’ll leave out his exact word) and then give him a ticket.

    So a PBA card means nothing to most cops. And if they haven’t done their quota -you definitely are getting a ticket.

    What does work is saying when he approaches the car and says “Do you know you were doing 75 in a 55 mile zone?” You answer -“No, I didn’t. I’m so sorry. I never speed -I just didn’t realize how fast I was going. I haven’t got a ticket in umpteen years. (however years was the last one) Or say “I’ve only gotten one ticket in 20 years of driving.” Then add -“I’m always a very careful driver”. Just don’t lie about when the last time you got a ticket. This is more likely to get you a “warning” than any PBA card.

    #1117905

    Rsoz
    Member

    I have a very close relative who’s a high ranking police officer. Most cops will in fact give you a break if you’re honestly apologetic and polite, with or without the card. If u have an attitude, the card won’t help. Here’s some good advice: don’t break the law and you won’t have to worry about any of this.

    #1117906

    choppy
    Member

    NYC cops rarely will let someone off without a ticket, once stopped.

    #1117907

    brachavehatzlacha
    Participant

    I have a (not frum) cousin who used to be a high ranking cop in NYC. He once gave me one of his rank pins and said I should show it if I was ever pulled over. (He apparently got extras to give out to friends and family.)

    After he handed it to me, he paused, and said,”But you’re wearing a yarmulke, so they’ll probably give you a ticket anyway.”

    I went on to ask him if he had ever experienced antisemitism in his years on the force.

    He replied, “Not to my face.”

    (He’s well over six feet tall, and had served in the Marines prior to the NYPD…)

    #1117908

    ohr chodesh
    Member

    Eisev sonah l’Yaakov.

    #1117909

    yoya
    Member

    bump

    #1117910

    OneOfMany
    Member

    Does the mod-42 card come with a complimentary towel? ^_^

    #1117911

    Did you know that PBA could also stand for Precious Baby Angel?

    #1117912

    MD95
    Member

    I’ve been pulled over and showed the cop my sherrifs “PBA” card, which I got because they sent me a letter saying, “send us twenty bucks and we’ll send u a card (I sent them 20 bucks once and get a updated card every year for a few years now) and he said,” alright, I won’t give u a ticket, just slow down”

    So it does work people, and it isn’t signed at all however it does come with my name actually printed (like by a computer) on it and looks pretty official. However sometimes I’ve gotton tickets even though I showed it so, its can help.

    Posted 3 years ago #

    #1117913

    MD95
    Member

    How can I get it too? THINK FIRST

    #1117914

    Health
    Participant

    MD95 -“How can I get it too? THINK FIRST”

    You’re joking! Just Don’t speed! If you just made a mistake, follow my advice that I posted above.

    #1117915

    yitzyk
    Participant

    Changing slightly to a very related topic, I have been very anxious to discuss but never had the right opportunity. This bumped thread is perfect.

    I have seen a few cars (mainly in Kensington, but that was just because I worked there and that’s where I was during the daytime,) displaying a book on their dashboard with the symbol of the NYPD. The book 100% saved them from getting parking tickets. So much so, that they took advantage of it by parking on the wrong side by alternate-side parking, and parking all day in metered spots without ever buying a single muni-meter receipt. I don’t know if it would also allow them to commit worse crimes, like parking at a hydrant, no standing, or bus-stop.

    As far as I can tell, these soft-covered books are training manuals for the traffic cops, who are not really Police Officers. (Unlike policemen that go through Police Academy for a long time, the Traffic Cops are civilians that just take a short course and immediately are authorized to issue tickets. Although they drive cars that look like police cars, and wear similar uniforms, they are what used to be called “Brownies” and basically just there to give parking tickets and nothing else.)

    I don’t know how to get these books, but it looks like a simple thing to fake. It is just a plain white paper book, 8-1/2 X 11, with the symbol of the NYPD and a title. I have seen the symbol in both color and black-and-white, on both spiral-bound and glued books.

    I pictures of some them, though I don’t know where they are right now. One of the drivers once came out of a store and saw me looking at his book (through the windshield, without touching his car) while he was parked illegally, and got really angry at me. With that attitude, I figure he must be related to a cop, if not one himself!

    #1117916

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant

    I would get angry, too. Why are you looking at people’s private things?

    #1117917

    Joseph
    Member

    Placing something on your dashboard, especially with the intention for it to be seen when parking in public, is hardly a private thing.

    #1117918

    yitzyk
    Participant

    Thanks Joseph – exactly.

    Plus, the driver surely knew that he was audaciously parking illegaly, and that I was suspiciously examining at the method he used. He was likely just afraid of getting busted so he acted self-rightously angry.

    I also have the right to be angry at these guys that prevent the street from being cleaned, or occupy parking spots for more than the legal time limit of one hour or whatever.

    #1117919

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant

    I didn’t realize people who put things on their dashboards intend for all pedestrians to stop and stare at it through the window.

    #1117920

    Joseph
    Member

    Someone wearing a rowdy t-shirt or hanging a picture on their window might also not have intended for people to stop and stare at it but better be able to accept when people do stop and look at it. If someone expects or hopes anyone will look at something he’s publicly displaying, such as paraphernalia on his dashboard, he should be prepared if everyone takes a look.

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