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Giving Alcohol To Minors On Purim

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  1. ishman
    Member

    Lechora there should be a problem of dina demalchusa dina and you shouldn't be allowed to give alcohol to minors
    however according to american law alcohol is permitted in case of religion so there should be no problem with giving alcohol to minors
    espesially minors who are above the yideshe adult age of thirteen
    and especially if the drinking is being controled by a rebbi or parent
    for example my son goes to his rebbis hous year after year and he gets plastered each year but i know that he is being looked after by other bachurim and his rabbeim. And kenain ehara no harm has yet befallen him
    acording to my experiens only dagerous things happen when there is no one watching the minor

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. oomis1105
    Member

    Just for the record re: women reciting the zimun over the wine being a "disgraceful matter," disgraceful matter does not necessarily mean something is assur. Personally, I wouldn't seek to do it, but there are many opinions by some rabbonim that something is not so appropriate for a woman to do, but it is not intrinsically assur. Many rabbonim hold women should not drive, but they cannot actually asser it. I am perfectly content to let the guys make the mezuman, but I have heard of women eating together in a zimun and bensching that way.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. volvie
    Joseph

    Those JOFA style feminist rebels do such things.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. oomis1105
    Member

    PArdon my ignorance - What is JOFA? Oh wait, never mind, I think I figured it out. Is there really such a group?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Jothar
    F.M.C.R.S. and occasional creator of chaos.

    Yes there is such a group as JOFA. But that's for a separate thread. they're the ones pushing women's laining, women's prayer groups, women dancing with the Torah, women rabbis, etc.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. haifagirl
    Chief of Grammar Enforcement Commandos

    Wolf needs neither my defense nor my haskamah. However, I would like to point out that I once had a job where my employer gave specific permission for me to use the internet whenever I had nothing pending. And there were several occasions of downtime during that job.

    Some employers permit personal stuff on "work time," and others don't. And perhaps Wolf is self-employed. I don't know whether he is or isn't, but I wouldn't presume he's a ganif when there are so many legitimate reasons he can be in the CR while "at work."

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. oomis1105
    Member

    Is there a real issur on women davening together in a group, or leining? I know it is not assur for us to touch a Sefer Torah, so what is the problem about dancing with it (separate from men watching them, of course)?

    The women's rabbi thing is a whole 'nother issue altogether, and I am sure most frum people would agree about that subject, in spite of the "rabbah" title some would like to confer on a learned woman. My feeling is, you can label an apple as an orange, but at the end of the day it was, is, and always will be an apple. The title Rabbi specifically normally refers to a male who because of his intense learning and understanding of Torah, has received smicha, and who then hopefully will impart his learning to others. A female who is equally learned as he, (and there are such women) is still a female, and cannot be a rabbi. (I would rather she be known as a talmidat chacham. But nobody asked me and the decision is not mine to make).

    Posted 2 years ago #

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