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  • #1446878

    square root of 2
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    does anyone here know how to do the goral hagr”a?

    #1447030

    Joseph
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    Yes.

    #1447072

    Geordie613
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    I don’t remember which godol it was that I read about recently, but he said that the Goral haGra is only done for life & death decisions.

    #1447151

    Avi K
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    1.4142135623730950488…, you are being irrational. Only big talmidei chachamim can do the Goral haGra and get an answer. By definition they do not participate in the CR.

    #1447372

    yytz
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    Good one, Avi! 🙂

    #1447416

    Gadolhadorah
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    One really amazing outcome of a Goral ha/Gra was posted here in the CR about 7 years ago:

    One dramatic instance of the use of the Gra Goral was in the identification of the bodies of 12 members of the Lamed Heh (the Convoy of 35, with the Hebrew letters lamed and heh being equivalent to the numbers 30 and 5, respectively ). The 35 fighters, members of the Haganah pre-state militia, were killed in January 1948, during the War of Independence, at the foot of the Arab village of Tzurif, during their attempt to reach the Etzion Bloc of Jewish settlements, south of Jerusalem. The bodies of the fighters were mutilated by the Arab attackers who killed them, and only in 1951 were the corpses gathered. By that time, it was possible to identify only 23 of the bodies conclusively.

    The chief rabbi of Jerusalem at the time, Tzvi Pesach Frank, ruled that the identification of the remaining bodies would be determined by the Gra lottery, and the task was assigned to the revered Jerusalem sage Rabbi Aryeh Levin.

    The identification took place in Levin’s beit midrash, in the presence of representatives of the bereaved parents. Twelve candles were lit, the Bible was opened at random seven times and Rabbi Levin ruled that as they stood in front of the remains of each of the fallen fighters, the last verse on the page had to include the name, or an allusion to the name, of each of those whom they were trying to identify. “How amazed everyone was when one of the verses that first appeared was ‘The earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein,’ a verse that [in Hebrew] begins with the word ‘to the Lord,’” which is abbreviated in Hebrew with the initials lamed-heh. “Moreover, to everyone’s amazement, every page spoke unequivocally. In the first verse they reached there was a specific name that clearly identified one of the fallen … One after the other … the identity of the fallen was determined.” (Quoted in “A Tzaddik in Our Time: The Life of Rabbi Aryeh Levin,” by Simcha Raz, who also provides the official minutes of the lottery. ) While a lottery was often used for private matters, here the lottery was conducted for the purpose of a decision of great public significance.”

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/goral-hagra-what-do-you-know-about-it

    #1447497

    Some Common Sense
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    Yes, I do but I will not make public via this format.

    After you have finished Shas a few times, you can approach your Rebbi for this.

    #1448491

    So that’s what happens when you raw-link other threads…
    To see Some Common Sense’s post, highlight its text by
    starting from higher up, then copy and paste it.

    #1448522

    square root of 2
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    joseph, how?

    #1448548

    Joseph
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    Those who know don’t tell; those who tell don’t know.

    #1449431

    Some Common Sense
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    In these matters, that should always be the case as the Re’ma states that you need to be over 40 and full of Shas and Halacha. Look it up.

    #1450267

    I don’t think the Goral haGRA is in the category of Kabbalah, Common Sense.

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