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How and where do they get the Parchment for Sefer Torahs?

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  1. always runs with scissors fast
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    Can you tell me about the process and who does it? How long it takes? What it costs? what animal?

    Posted 11 months ago #
  2. Shticky Guy
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    The parchment, or Klaf as it is called,
    used for the Sefer Torah, is made
    from the hides of an animal of the
    Kosher species. The most preferable
    quality parchment is Shlil, the hide of
    the embryo or a newborn calf. The
    surface of the Klaf should not be
    coated or glazed. Approximately sixty-
    two hides are needed for a complete
    Sefer Torah. The average size of a
    newly written Sefer Torah is between
    17 to 20 inches however, smaller sizes
    are available.

    Kosher Parchment called Klaf must
    be prepared specifically for that
    purpose (ie. the klaf for a Torah
    cannot be used for Tefillin, and vice
    versa). The parchment must derive
    from a kosher animal, usually a
    goat, bull /cow, or deer. The Klaf is
    meticulously prepared by the
    Sofer, who first soaks the skin in
    lime water for nine days to remove
    hairs, and then stretches the skin
    over a wooden frame to dry. The
    Sofer scrapes the skin while it is
    stretched over the wooden frame
    to remove more hair and smooths
    the surface of the skin in
    preparation for writing on it with
    the use of a sanding machine. When
    the skin is dry, the Sofer cuts it
    into a rectangle. The Sofer must
    prepare many such skins because a
    Sefer Torah usually contains 248
    columns, and one rectangle of
    parchment yields space for three or
    four columns. Thus a Sefer Torah
    may require up to 80 or more
    skins in all.
    Finally, When the parchment sheets
    are ready, the Sofer applies a
    straight edge to draw a writing
    pattern - usually forty two
    horizontal lines across the
    parchment and two vertical lines
    defining the boundaries for each
    column. He also leaves a blank
    space between the area designed
    for writing and the margin -
    (according to the tradition, it has to
    be five fingers wide). Thus, a Sofer
    will have at least three to four
    columns on each piece of
    parchment - called amudim (amud -
    a column). In general, there should
    be no less than three amudim on
    one yeriah (sheet or folio) and not more than eight. There must be a margin of three inches on the top, four
    inches at the bottom, and two
    inches between columns. Now the
    parchment is waiting for the writing
    process to start.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  3. pcoz
    Member

    most klaf nowadays is machine processed, not 'stretched between a wooden frame etc.' That's why if you look at the klaf of new sifrei torah you will see a diamond pattern which is the pattern of the metal grid the klaf was dried on. Also I'm not sure it's still done with lime (which is quite slow). The old style klaf is becoming difficult to get hold of and does provide a better writing surface.

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  4. moishy
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    Posted 11 months ago #
  5. ItcheSrulik
    Formerly college sheigetz. Now ger.

    AFAIK you can't get shlil today.

    pcoz: I just looked at a yeriah I have at home. I don't see any such pattern. Are you sure everyone does that?

    Posted 11 months ago #
  6. pcoz
    Member

    ItcheSrulik - you can get shlil today, the industry term is slinks. These are normally from aborted foetuses taken from milk cows where the cow was brought to that state in order so that it would produce milk. Slinks are quite cheap becuase they don't have many other uses.

    I have seen the diamond pattern, but I guess not all klaf is necesarily dried the same way. There were some yungerleit who started producing chemical tanned klaf in Israel a few years ago. Anyway I doubt if you are buying klaf today that this is hand tanned and frame dried unless you paid a premium for it.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  7. RSRH
    Member

    There is an old-fashioned parchment maker in upstate NY in the Hudson Valley who still makes it the old way - soaked in lime, hand stretched on metal framed, had scraped, and hand-prepared even before it goes into the lime bath. I have NEVER worked with such amazing quality parchment before. Since it is all hand done, they can often make it to-order, so I can choose the size, dimensions, and thickness of the piece, and can even get it surfaced for writing on both sides. They do cow, sheep, goat, and occasionally deer and buffalo skins. Unfortunately, they are not Jewish, so I only buy from them for when I'm writing non-kisvei kodesh (In addition to megilos, I write and illustrate kesubos, custom bentchers, haggados, and other art-pieces).

    The place is called Pergemena. Check them out online.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  8. ItcheSrulik
    Formerly college sheigetz. Now ger.

    pcoz: I did pay through the nose for it but I thought that was the premium for getting something me'ubad lishma.

    Posted 11 months ago #
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  10. mom12
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    Posted 11 months ago #
  11. always runs with scissors fast
    irons with spray starch

    I am so glad animal rights' activists have no idea about that.

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  12. pcoz
    Member

    Some gelatin which is used to make lollies and ice-cream is made from cow face pieces. That means you have a person standing in the tannery cutting the faces of the cows from the hides, they remove the ears becuase these are made into dog chew treats. I hope your animal rights activists don't like ice-cream.

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  13. yehudayona
    Member

    pcoz, according the the Pergemena website, the term is slunk, not slinks. The name they list it under is uterine calf.

    Posted 11 months ago #
  14. pcoz
    Member

    In the tannery I used to work in they called them slinks

    Posted 11 months ago #

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