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    RebYidd23
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    But why should nobody be allowed to joke about it? Joking about it makes it less scary and easier to face, which is necessary since it is impossible to run away. To call it by its name and not to be afraid is good. And humor can be very beneficial.

    #1066115

    mw13
    Participant

    Humor can certainly lighten things, but the question is whether or not everything should be lightened. There are some things that should be taken seriously, even they are more difficult to face that way.

    #1066116

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Would you leave me defenseless?

    #1066117

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I find that sweeping generalities reign supreme. I am not implying that nobody is allowed to joke about it. I am saying that a random poster should not make joking statements about difficult life situations or painful subjects in a mocking way unless it is within a context or part of a specific discussion.

    When I am sitting with people who know that I have lost my only two sisters and my parents, and sat shiva four times in six years, I will sometimes make a “joke” about loss, about shiva, about death or mourning. But they know where I am coming from. If I showed up to a new group and started making jokes about death, it could potentially be very painful to someone who has recently suffered a loss, giving the impression that I think it is a light topic.

    This is my experience and understanding, others can feel differently. But as someone with a very cynical and sarcastic sense of humor, who has been through my share of traumas, and made my share of jokes, I feel confident making this point.

    and mw13 has a point as well.

    #1066118

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    I do not consider myself a random poster. And in this case it was part of a specific discussion. (I find your assumptions offensive.)

    #1066119

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    you may not be ‘random’, but you are still “random”. And either way, the first post in a thread is not part of a discussion until after it gets responses. And lastly, I don’t believe you were offended by my assumptions because I didn’t make any. And you have also demonstrated thicker skin than that.

    #1066120

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    You did make assumptions and they were quite obvious. And the first post was already part of a different discussion.

    #1066121

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    whatever makes you happy . . .

    #1066122

    owl
    Member

    —But why should nobody be allowed to joke about it?—

    A joke that’s funny, that’s uplifting, is one matter. A joke that mocks people who are trying to address a tragic situation is another. Maybe to you it’s not tragic because you are lost in your own little world. Here’s my suggestion, spend a day with a family with an autistic child. Then find a joke for us.

    #1066123

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Try spending a day as an autistic person without being allowed to use humor.

    #1066124

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Here’s my suggestion, spend a day with a family with an autistic child. Then find a joke for us.

    owl – you don’t know that s/he doesn’t. the fact is that there is nothing wrong with the joking per se. it is coming on with no context, without the listeners knowing your negius, and making a joke. we all may have responded differently had an op started a thread this way, “After a trip to the fruit store with my autistic son i had the funniest thought . . .”

    or

    “after spending days sifting through ‘autism research’ with other parents, I have drawn the conclusion that the real cause of autism was the creation of Thomas cartoons”

    #1066125

    Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Here’s a joke. the mother of an autistic boy thought this was hysterical and shared it with others whom she knew would enjoy the laugh.

    Her son eats non-stop. She used to lock the fridge but it didn’t work. He especially loves deli but, for some reason, hates bologna. The mom bought 3 pounds of bologna for her other kids knowing that her son wouldnt touch it.

    One morning she woke up and found that her son had gone to the fridge and had apparently been unhappy about finding the deli package to contain bologna. How did she know? He slapped every last piece against the wall, where they stuck firmly, like a second layer of wallpaper. She thought it was a funny site, and a funny story and so did we. And I don’t think anyone but an autistic child would have thought of it. But that doesn’t mean I think autism is funny. I just think we sometimes need to laugh at our situations.

    #1066126

    I am a little lost in terms of what this discussion is really about, but the way I understand it, everyone deals with hardship differently and although one person might be insulted by a joke, it might be the coping mechanism of the other person. The best thing to do would be to express any hurt that a comment elicited and understand that the comment is not necessarily coming to harm and might be the way that a different person trys to help.

    #1273627

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    I’m still upset about the time a bunch of neurotypicals attacked me for mentioning autism (as something there are conspiracy theories about) while making fun of conspiracy theorists.

    #1273697

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    So autistic people drain all the humor out of their families? Great. I’ll go tell all my autistic friends that. I’m sure they won’t be offended.

    #1273756

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    It’s not okay to make fun of your own kid. It hurts even more coming from a parent.

    #1273841

    MRS PLONY
    Participant

    Some things are never funny, even as a joke. (I don’t have to give examples, do I?) Some things are funny as a joke, but not in real life. It seems like RebYidd23 is referring to some specific joke on a different thread, and since I don’t know what that joke was, I can’t be sure which category the joke in question falls into.

    #1273849

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    RebYidd23 was more offended by people’s reaction on behalf of people with autism. People basically implied that having a child with autism is a major tragedy. It’s not pleasant being called a tragedy.

    #1273840

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Why make something more difficult to bear than it has to be? Am I supposed to be depressed?

    #1273889

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Nothing is allowed to make me happy. I have to be sad all the time because otherwise I would be making light of a serious issue.

    #1273935

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Just to be clear, I didn’t joke about autism. I made fun of antivaxxers. Somehow this is offensive to neurotypicals.

    #1273939

    lightbrite
    Participant

    Oh! Was this what you were talking about in the thread about the seagull?!

    What thread are you referring to?

    #1273950

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Forget the seagull.

    #1274250

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    Yeah, but why is that okay exactly? Why is it not okay to mention autism without a preface, but perfectly okay to talk as if autism is a crime and the parents are the victims?

    #1274305

    YW Moderator-79
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    #1274429

    MRS PLONY
    Participant

    Thanks, Mod 79.

    Off topic, RebYidd23: How come you referred to yourself in the third person?

    #1274465

    jakob
    Participant

    theres a time & a place for everything, as sad of a day that tisha b’av is a person is not supposed to lighten it up by making jokes, its a day of mourning…. Yom Kippur is a very serious day & being funny lightens the seriouness of the yom tov set aside as a gift of doing teshuva etc…. many other examples…. the way to be menachem avel someone is not by going & making jokes with them….

    #1274469

    YW Moderator-29
    Moderator

    Very creative!

    #1274472

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    It’s something RebYidd does sometimes when he’s upset.

    #1275130

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    What is your post referring to?

    #1275800

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    I have a personal grudge against antivaxxers because they would rather risk giving their kid polio or measles than do what they believe might make their kid turn out like me.

    #1275813

    lightbrite
    Participant

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    #1275822

    YW Moderator-29
    Moderator

    I was referring to you taking an old thread and inserting new posts after almost every old post without really losing the continuity of the thread!

    #1275827

    MRS PLONY
    Participant

    Yeah, Plus one! CR would be dull without you.

    #1281026

    catch yourself
    Participant

    “Neurotypicals” – Brilliant.

    Rav Shamshon Refael Hirsch on 讛诪讘诇讬 讗讬谉 拽讘专讬诐 讘诪爪专讬诐 诇拽讞转谞讜 诇诪讜转 讘诪讚讘专 notes that already at the banks of the Yam Suf, the Jewish sense of humor, in all its sarcastic glory, was a natural outlet for psychological stress, a role it would continue to play during the millennia of Galus that would follow later.

    The only caveat, as pointed out above, is to make sure that those who hear you will not misunderstand and take offense.

    #1281083

    RebYidd23
    Participant

    What word other than neurotypical refers to people who are not neuroatypical/neurodivergent?

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