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October 3, 2010 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #592508simcha613Participant
I once heard that some sects of Judaism say “Rashi is all truth, Ramban is mostly truth, Rashbam is mostly false, and Ibn Ezra is all false.” Is that true and why should such a thing be said?
October 3, 2010 4:42 pm at 4:42 pm #698350HelpfulMemberThat “sect” is call reform/conservative.
And they are not part of Judaism.
October 3, 2010 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #698351fabieMemberWhere did you hear that?
October 3, 2010 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #698352charliehallParticipantWe in the tradition of Rabbinic Judaism say they are all emet, even when they flatly contradict each other.
October 3, 2010 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #698353mw13ParticipantHmm… these sects sure don’t sound too jewish to me.
October 3, 2010 7:27 pm at 7:27 pm #698354miamimiamiMemberthe wonderful ibn ezra is buried near my house! he made it to the holy land. what about you dear reader?
October 3, 2010 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #698355ChachamParticipantI once heard Hamezalzel BEchachamim ain Lo Chelek Lo`alam Habaah and the scource is very reliable- a gemara in chelek
October 3, 2010 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #698356yitayningwutParticipantAlthough this statement was made in perhaps a very disrespectful manner, it makes sense why someone in the yeshivishe velt would say something to that effect, albeit with different words. In general, with regard to sticking to the mesorah and not saying more literal explanations in almost every topic in chumash, that is the order, with Rashi always quoting gemaras and midrashim etc., Ibn Ezra generally saying his own pshat with sometimes open disregard for midrashim, and Ramban and Rashbam somewhere in between. There is a very interesting Rashbam in the beginning of Vayeishev that is relevant, ?”?.
Helpful – Funny you should say that, in fact Conservative and Reform would probably use the same tone but they would say exactly the opposite.
October 4, 2010 12:02 am at 12:02 am #698357mw13Participant“it makes sense why someone in the yeshivishe velt would say something to that effect”
What?! The “yeshivishe velt” is very into their emunas Chachomim, and would rip somebody who said something like this to pieces.
October 4, 2010 12:17 am at 12:17 am #698358yitayningwutParticipantI think you missed my point. I said specifically, though not in this tone, the attitude reflects the thinking of the yeshivishe velt, regarding the mehalech in chumash of the said meforshim.
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