Is it tzniusdik–Mens’ edition

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  • January 24, 2018 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1456272

    👑RebYidd23
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    Is it tzniusdik for man to….
    wear a hat that is very tall?
    laugh loudly in public?
    wear cowboy boots?
    drink grape soda?
    wear a shirt that says “troll hunter”?
    bite into an apple in public?
    sing in a backyard?
    run in the streets?
    wear a shirt that says “shh, this is a library”?
    give a speech in the store about how there doesn’t have to be more than one brand of diet cream soda?
    wear a shirt that says “Hermione has forgotten how to dance”?
    write poetry and print it out and hand it to people?
    put an ice cream cone on his forehead?
    wear a shirt that says “Make America Great Again”?
    wear a beard hat?
    wear a baseball cap under his kippah?
    wear a baseball cap in a normal way?
    run a marathon?

    January 24, 2018 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #1456449

    👑RebYidd23
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    Note that though some of these (such as the ice cream cone or the cowboy boots) are already known to be inadvisable for other reasons, I am only referring to tznius.

    January 24, 2018 9:20 pm at 9:20 pm #1456451

    Joseph
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    Men set the rules, so they can set the rules to accommodate their requirements.

    January 25, 2018 7:42 am at 7:42 am #1456475

    Modesty
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    Men don’t have a Mitzvah to be tznios it’s our mitzvah I know that it may sound races but truth be told we are girls are blessed with this mitzvah

    January 25, 2018 7:42 am at 7:42 am #1456476

    litvishechossid
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    Is it ok to eat ice cream in public without a spoon?

    January 25, 2018 7:42 am at 7:42 am #1456477

    👑RebYidd23
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    Joseph, the Torah sets the rules, not men.

    January 25, 2018 8:24 am at 8:24 am #1456566

    Joseph
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    LC: It is not okay to eat anything in public with or without a spoon.

    January 25, 2018 10:22 am at 10:22 am #1456616

    Takes2-2tango
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    ModestyParticipant
    Men don’t have a Mitzvah to be tznios it’s our mitzvah I know that it may sound races but truth be told we are girls are blessed with this mitzvah.
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    That is in correct.
    The mitzva of הצנע לכת does apply to men as well.

    January 25, 2018 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #1456684

    litvishechossid
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    Joseph, I’m not sure you quite understand me. I referred specifically to ice cream without a spoon.

    January 25, 2018 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm #1456683

    yitzchokm
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    Lol Joseph

    January 25, 2018 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #1457323

    👑RebYidd23
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    Modesty, I think I disagree with you, but I don’t even understand that string of words.

    January 25, 2018 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1457345

    yehudayona
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    Uh-oh. Joseph just banned all restaurants. Wedding halls too.

    January 25, 2018 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #1457348

    Disillusioned
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    It is only the ignorant of Halacha that think that modesty is only for women. While there are stricter rules for men than women, the Shulchan Aruch clearly states modesty for men. Why do people think quoting wrong Halacha in this coffee room or anywhere is ok? If you don’t know….you don’t have to give others you ignorant answers. At least be honest and give a disclaimer that it is your own made up Judaism. Falsely misleading people….there is a price to pay.

    January 25, 2018 8:56 pm at 8:56 pm #1457366

    Joseph
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    YY: Wedding meals aren’t public. Restaurants where the patrons eating isn’t visible to the street aren’t either.

    January 25, 2018 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #1457428

    👑RebYidd23
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    Actually, some people make sure their wedding meals are more public.

    January 26, 2018 12:53 am at 12:53 am #1457453

    Joseph
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    More is relative. I’ve never seen a Chasuna seuda being held where people in the public street could see everyone eating. A Chasuna seuda is no more public that a Siyum seuda made in a Shul.

    January 26, 2018 6:16 am at 6:16 am #1457471

    👑RebYidd23
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    What is the distinction between a person from the street and a person who walked from the streets into the hall?

    January 26, 2018 7:37 am at 7:37 am #1457485

    Joseph
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    What is the difference between a person from the street and a person who walked from the streets into the yeshiva dining room?

    January 26, 2018 10:37 am at 10:37 am #1457502

    👑RebYidd23
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    Typical Joseph.

    January 26, 2018 10:38 am at 10:38 am #1457538

    Takes2-2tango
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    It says ….אוכל בשוק כאילו
    A שוק can Be indoor or our door, so why is it ok for hundreds Of people to eat in a wedding hall . the fact that it has a roof does not change the dynamics of a public areas.

    January 26, 2018 11:01 am at 11:01 am #1457565

    Joseph
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    You think eating in your living room is “eating in public” if you have many guests over for the Shabbos seuda?

    January 31, 2018 6:16 am at 6:16 am #1460336

    👑RebYidd23
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    Have you extended an open invitation to a large crowd?

    February 6, 2018 7:09 am at 7:09 am #1462966

    MTAB
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    Of course men have a mitzvah to be tzinus. In Jerus there are signs about this. Tight pants are a big problem today.

    February 6, 2018 7:11 am at 7:11 am #1462967

    chilliworker2
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    there are rules in the shulchan aruch of how to eat, but they have nothing to do with tznius, which is the title of this discussion.
    ps. t22tango – can you quote a source for your – shuk being indoor too? doesn’t a shuk mean *out* in the streets. and the saying goes האוכל בשוק דומה לכלב. which by the way is referring mainly to mezonos, but of course eating in public is crass – WITH OR WITHOUT A SPOON!

    February 6, 2018 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #1463818

    catch yourself
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    My Rav told me that the definition of שוק with regard to the rule of האוכל בשוק וכו is “a place that is not designated for eating,” so, for example, there is nothing wrong with eating in the food court of a mall, or at the sidewalk tables outside a cafe.

    February 6, 2018 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #1463973

    keith
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    What is wrong with cowboy boots? They are very comfortable. And stylish.

    February 6, 2018 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #1463990

    yehudayona
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    CY, what would he say about a ball game?

    Joseph, many restaurants have windows. If the only available table is near the windows, do you walk out?

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