It should be legal to eat dog and cat meat.

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  • #1515074

    👑RebYidd23
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    Why should people from Western cultures get to impose this taboo on anyone else? People who don’t have the obligation to eat kosher should be able to eat even the types of animals that are kept as pets. Also, we kill plenty of dogs and cats anyway, so why is it more wrong to eat them?

    #1515226

    Joseph
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    Agreed with the OP, RY23.

    If pigs can be killed and eaten then cats, dogs and horses are no better.

    #1515210

    DovidBT
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    According to some quick web research, it looks like in most states, there’s no law prohibiting eating your pets.

    And even if it’s not legal, it’s probably easy to get away with, as long as you’re discreet about it. (“What happened to your dog?” “He ran away.”)

    #1515235

    👑RebYidd23
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    To the extent to which there is actual demand, unwanted animals that cannot be placed in shelters should be eaten instead of euthanized. This will prevent wastefulness, so it’s good for the environment.

    #1515246

    icemelter
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    Actually if you adopt they usually put a tracking chip into the animal. So if you eat it, you’ll tell them it ran away and they’ll see it ran into your stomach.

    #1515254

    RebeccaJane
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    Absolutely NOT!
    Dogs (& cats) have been bred as companions for tens of generations – a strong bond exists between humans and canines, so much so that dogs are considered as family members.

    #1515284

    👑RebYidd23
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    In your culture.

    #1515372

    apushatayid
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    “dogs are considered as family members.”

    Sadly, sometimes even more than the human family members.

    #1515377

    Health
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    Yidd23 -“It should be legal to eat dog and cat meat”

    Absolutely NOT! Unwanted animals that cannot be placed in shelters should be euthanized or kept alive, instead of eaten! We need these animals for science, especially medical science.
    Do you know how hard it is to get healthy animals for science? PETA & other orgs. make such a fuss.
    Just another case of PC Insanity!!!

    #1515404

    screwdriverdelight
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    Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?

    #1515405

    screwdriverdelight
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    And what does it have to do with PC?

    #1515474

    Joseph
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    Why cows over cats and dogs?

    How are dead animals bad for the environment?

    #1515486

    akuperma
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    When you are the majority culture you get to impose your views on everyone else, thus in America, we don’t eat horses or dogs or cats (though in all fairness, no one eats cats, whereas dogs and horses are eaten in many countries). Note that many countries prohibit eating pigs as well. Same principle.

    #1515487

    apushatayid
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    “Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?”

    They take up less space?

    #1515490

    Milhouse
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    Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?

    Because they’re smaller.

    Edited -use em and /em tags for italics 🙂

    #1515496

    Health
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    screwdriverdelight -“Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?”

    Cows are used by humans for food (Milk & Meat)!

    “And what does it have to do with PC?”

    Why it’s very hard to get cats and dogs for Science.

    #1515508

    👑RebYidd23
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    “When you are the majority culture you get to impose your views on everyone else”

    So I’m assuming that this was written by a Christian .

    #1515506

    WinnieThePooh
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    Scientists would not want to use random animals from a shelter for medical experiments- too many variables, too many differences that will distort the results and make it impossible to interpret the outcome of the experiment. Did Fluffy live longer than Fido after taking medicine X because medicine X worked, or because Fido was weaker after living on the streets for 2 years?
    Scientists who use animals like mice and rats use ones that are bred for that purpose- their genetic background is known and the same in all animals used for the experiment, they are matched by age and often gender, they are kept in sterile, germ free housing, they are fed the same food, have the same day/night cycles, etc. Research with larger animals is rarer, mostly because they take longer to breed and are more expensive to keep, and are not as practical, although sometimes it is necessary to use a larger animal more similar to a human, like monkeys for neuroscience research.

    #1515509

    👑RebYidd23
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    Cats and dogs are not actually that useful for science. Also, it’s not finding an actual source of cats and dogs that’s hard, it’s getting each experiment ethically approved.

    #1515528

    DovidBT
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    Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?
    Because they’re smaller.

    Exactly. Have you ever seen a scientist lift and carry a cow?

    #1515535

    yitzchokm
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    screwdriverdelight

    It’s cheaper

    #1516305

    Health
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    WtP -“Scientists would not want to use random animals from a shelter for medical experiments”
    YIidd23 -“Cats and dogs are not actually that useful for science. Also, it’s not finding an actual source of cats and dogs that’s hard, it’s getting each experiment ethically approved”

    The both of you make assumptions and make comments thereafter!
    The schools use cats for Biology & Anatomy Labs. The company gets them from Road Kill!
    There aren’t enough road kill with dogs, so they use cats.

    #1516334

    yehudayona
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    Health, don’t the tire marks mess up the anatomy?

    Cats are used or have been used for testing cochlear implants.

    #1516345

    👑RebYidd23
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    Making assumptions is a sign of an efficient mind. Without assumptions, we would spend our entire lives crippled by uncertainty.

    #1516407

    WinnieThePooh
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    Health, I gave facts, not assumptions. Personally, I don’t count college anatomy labs as critical medical research. I think science will continue even if college kids don’t get to dissect a cat. In these days of computer simulations, I wonder why it is even necessary for most people taking science courses to do any animal dissections- can’t it be done virtually? How many of these students will actually need that sort of experience for their actual careers? Med students will dissect cadavers in med school, that should be enough.
    I have no problem using animals for experiments, but it should be for a real purpose.

    #1516411

    screwdriverdelight
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    Why should scientists use cats and dogs over cows?”


    -They take up less space?
    -Because they’re smaller.
    -It’s cheaper

    Granted, these are legitimate reasons as to why scientists should prefer cats and dogs over cows. But they don’t justify forbidding cats and dogs for citizens, but legalizing them for scientists. The law could allow mere citizens the same conveniences and economic advantages as scientists.

    #1516410

    screwdriverdelight
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    Cows are used by humans for food (Milk & Meat)!

    Are you incapable of following the discussion? OP said eating cats & dogs should be legal. You say, “no we need them for science.” I say, “use cows for science and eats cats.” You say, “We can’t use cows, because we eat them.”


    “And what does it have to do with PC?”

    Why it’s very hard to get cats and dogs for Science.

    PC stands for Political Correctness. It has nothing to do with tough laws.

    #1516474

    Health
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    screwdriverdelight -“Are you incapable of following the discussion? OP said eating cats & dogs should be legal. You say, “no we need them for science.” I say, “use cows for science and eats cats.” You say, “We can’t use cows, because we eat them.””

    In other words, there is a purpose for humans!
    There are very few needs for humans for cats & dogs! How about for science?!?

    “PC stands for Political Correctness. It has nothing to do with tough laws”

    Why are there tough laws for using cats & dogs, especially when they can be used for science?!?

    #1516478

    Health
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    WtP -“In these days of computer simulations, I wonder why it is even necessary for most people taking science courses to do any animal dissections- can’t it be done virtually? How many of these students will actually need that sort of experience for their actual careers? Med students will dissect cadavers in med school, that should be enough.”

    You need animal dissection because there aren’t enough cadavers! A lot of medical courses have gone the computer simulation route.

    #1516492

    👑RebYidd23
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    Why are cats and dogs better than rats and pigs?

    #1516504

    DovidBT
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    You need animal dissection because there aren’t enough cadavers! A lot of medical courses have gone the computer simulation route.

    Has anyone tried making fake cadavers using vegetable sources? After the medical students are through with their dissection exercises, they could eat the cadavers (or donate them to the local food bank).

    • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by  YW Moderator-25.
    • This reply was modified 7 months, 2 weeks ago by  DovidBT. Reason: Added food bank suggestion
    #1516508

    👑RebYidd23
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    I vote for avoiding methods that may lead to an army of cannibalistic medical students.

    #1516551

    Health
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    DovidBT -“Has anyone tried making fake cadavers using vegetable sources? ”

    IT’S NOT Funny! But they should have more people on death row & after their death – dissect them!

    #1516552

    Health
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    Yidd23 -“It should be legal to eat dog and cat meat.”
    “Why are cats and dogs better than rats and pigs?”

    Pigs have more meat on them. But I’m sure no one would stop you from eating your pet, if you’re on a DIET!

    #1516586

    👑RebYidd23
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    Why did you assume that I was talking about rats and pigs as food rather than from an ethical standpoint of which animal would make the best senator if animals were allowed to be senators?

    #1516616

    DovidBT
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    But they should have more people on death row & after their death – dissect them!

    Medical students should learn anatomy by dissecting average people, not the psychos on death row.

    #1516636

    Yossii
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    It’s legal in most states

    #1516639

    👑RebYidd23
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    Am I the only one who finds it disturbing that you would execute people not mainly for their crimes but because you want their bodies for med students?

    #1516647

    Health
    Participant

    Yidd23 -“if animals were allowed to be senators”

    What are you talking about? There are many Senators that are animals, esp. Pigs!

    #1516695

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant

    Health,

    In other words, there is a purpose for humans!
    There are very few needs for humans for cats & dogs! How about for science?!?

    How about for food?

    Why are there tough laws for using cats & dogs, especially when they can be used for science?!?

    Beats me. But what does it have to do with PC?

    #1516850

    Health
    Participant

    screwdriverdelight -“Health,
    How about for food?”

    The avg. American won’t eat cats or dogs! Maybe they do in other countries.

    “Beats me. But what does it have to do with PC?”

    My assumption why there are tough laws is because of the PC that was created by our liberals!

    #1517049

    👑RebYidd23
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    Why would it be PC to impose one’s own culture on others?

    #1517088

    apushatayid
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    It should.

    #1517155

    screwdriverdelight
    Participant

    Health,
    <emThe avg. American won’t eat cats or dogs! Maybe they do in other countries.

    So basically it should be illegal to eat cats and dogs since the avg. American won’t eat them.

    My assumption why there are tough laws is because of the PC that was created by our liberals!

    Or maybe because of the though laws created by liberals.

    #1517212

    Health
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    sdd -“So basically it should be illegal to eat cats and dogs since the avg. American won’t eat them”

    Sorry; I don’t write the laws.

    #1517532

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    But if you did, what would you write?

    #1517539

    apushatayid
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    Grilled.

    #1517581

    screwdriverdelight
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    Health,
    Sorry; I don’t write the laws.

    But you did offeryour opinion on what it should be.

    Yidd23 -“It should be legal to eat dog and cat meat”

    Absolutely NOT! Unwanted animals that cannot be placed in shelters should be euthanized or kept alive, instead of eaten! We need these animals for science, especially medical science.

    #1517693

    Health
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    sdd -“But you did offer your opinion on what it should be.”

    You missed the point of my comment! My point wasn’t on the legality. As far as I know, it’s legal to eat dog or cat meat!

    #1517755

    Meno
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    “You missed the point of my comment!”

    Yeah that seems to be an ongoing theme here

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