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JULY 4TH

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  • Started 1 year ago by mikehall12382
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  1. mikehall12382
    Member

    Do you celebrate it, what do you do?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Pac-Man
    Joseph

    I eat firecrackers.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Rabbi Avigdor Miller, tzl, who said it is very innapropriate to celebrate "thanksgiving" in any way, and every effort should be made, if possible, to have nothing to do with it,
    also said that every frum Jew should publicly celebrate July 4. on his shul they would display a us flag.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. Pac-Man
    Joseph

    Mod, why do you type tzl rather than ztl?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. just to test all the spellcheckers out there ;)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. i dont know
    do you think ztl is better?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. mikehall12382
    Member

    "I eat firecrackers."

    what's the hecksher?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Pac-Man
    Joseph

    OU-D.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. zahavasdad
    Member

    Rav Forst in Far Rockaway forbid even having a BBQ on July 4th

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. yossi z.
    :D yossi :D

    I am "celebrating" july 4th by moving into my new house right around then.

    :D Zuberman! :D

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. Please see responses to the 14 other times this topic has been discussed.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. Pac-Man
    Joseph

    I would think ztl is more accurate Mod, as it adheres to the Hebrew acronym. I'm not sure how you came to use your version.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. im not sure how i came to use it either
    ill switch to ztl (b'li neder) (or should i say neder b'li)
    thanks

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. aries2756
    Smartness runs in my family.

    Yossi congrats where did you find your apartment?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. cantoresq
    Inactive

    If I remember, I put out my flag. We always have a barbecue. Nothing like good food, good beer and good friends to celebrate our freedom.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. bpt
    never caustic

    The same way I celebrate other legal holidays (that Mrs BP does not have off)

    With GRATITUDE!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. yossi z.
    :D yossi :D

    Aries: far rockaway. I was getting kinda desperate and a vacancy opened up in my friend's apartment as one of the other guys is getting married

    :D Zuberman! :D

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. ItcheSrulik
    Formerly college sheigetz. Now ger.

    I will follow all American customs. I will eat burnt meat and drink inferior beer. Then I will debate with my friends whether or not we should go to Manhattan for the fireworks (we always decide not to), eat more burnt meat, drink some less inferior beer, and go to maariv.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. mewho
    Member

    i celebrate every holiday that i am paid at work for and get the day off.
    doesnt mean i celebrate it the way others do. but i sure do celebrate a free ''paid'' day!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. minyan gal
    limericist extrordinaire

    I don't celebrate July 4 because I am Canadian. However, I DO celebrate July 1, which is Canada Day. I will put a flag on apartment balcony. There will be fireworks at night, but I won't be going to any because they all start after Shabbat begins. However, I can often see great fireworks displays from downtown from the balcony of my place, so I may sit on my balcony about 10 PM and see what I can see.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. Happy Fourth of July!

    G*d Bless America!!

    SiDi™

    Posted 10 months ago #
  22. yummy cupcake
    with sprinkles on top

    we celebrate my grandmothers bday today! and on the side, we watch the fireworks that many ppl do down the block from us. we live on a corner, so its a pretty good view.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  23. ItcheSrulik
    Formerly college sheigetz. Now ger.

    Happy birthday to your grandmother, ad meah v'esrim.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  24. MorahRach
    Member

    I celebrate it big time. America is my country bH I was born here!!! We have a big BBQ, a lot of my family and in laws get together, it's a great day that we all have off of work, and can finally get together.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  25. yummy cupcake
    with sprinkles on top

    amen, thanks!

    Posted 10 months ago #
  26. SpiderJerusalem
    the giant mutant spiders ate all the cats

    I watch the Mets lose

    Posted 10 months ago #
  27. 2scents
    Mint and Raspberry

    MoraRach,

    Would you mind sharing what a BBQ and America being a great country have in common?

    I also think that America is the greatest country, even greater is the fact that my grandparents were accepted and given a chance here in the USA.

    However doing something that Goyim do is not something that I would prefer. We spend the day together playing and having fun (like each Sunday) we daven and learn as well. Use this day of rest to cut myself off from work and enjoy life.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  28. MorahRach
    Member

    They don't have anything to do with each other. But the weather is beautiful, we all have off, my husband works on Sundays so we can almost never BBQ all together, so my family and parents and in-laws get together, BBQ, catch up, talk politics etc. so it's not really the BBQ, we are just getting together as an extended family, loving our country and being together.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  29. Sam2
    The Even-Keeled and Erudite Shmuely Wollenberger from Las Vegas

    2scents: Once again, I think the point isn't that the barbecue is L'kavod July 4th. July 4th is just a happy day to begin with to give Shevach V'hoda'ah LeHakadosh Baruch Hu for giving us a great place to live and follow the Torah relatively unhindered. Couple that with a hot summer day and no work and a barbecue is the natural conclusion.

    I think this is a perfect example of the Goyim doing something logical. Are we supposed to be illogical because they do the logical thing. We don't drive on the sidewalk and walk in the street, even though the Goyim do the exact opposite. We are not obligated to avoid doing everything they do (we walk and breathe and sleep just like they do). July 4th is just a logical day for a big barbecue. There's nothing wrong with doing something logical.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  30. No One Mourns The Wicked
    No one - except Yankee fans

    "I watch the Mets lose"

    Ugggh, I know :(

    As an aside, Jew or not, we live in America and should celebrate our country's freedom and tolerance.

    God bless.

    Posted 10 months ago #

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