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51. DaMoshe
    Member

    Joseph, I agree that it's a formula problem, but that doesn't really matter. What matters to residents is that the spending will go down. Maybe they should lobby to get the formula changed, and then the attitude of people will change?

    As far as infrastructure, it's not just about electricity and plumbing. I have family in Monsey who complains about the traffic and lack of parking. The roads there weren't designed to handle large amounts of traffic, or the parking demand. You also aren't necessarily correct about facilities - I've been told that in Monsey, power outages due to storms are much more common than in other areas. This is because the infrastructure was put up extremely quickly. There aren't always backup systems in place, and the wiring wasn't necessarily put in as it should have been (i.e. above ground on poles instead of buried, as is commonly done with newer constructions).

    Posted 5 hours ago #

52. nishtdayngesheft
    Member

    "In a majority Yeshivish town (such as Lakewood, or Ramapo), the costs of an exponential birth rate should get paid by higher taxes on owners"

    However, the additional funding would mostly be covered by the additional housing that is being taxed while not using the public school system. The incremental costs that are not for school costs are being covered by the increased tax base.

    "The problem is that the Jews refuse to pay the taxes needed to support the services that are required by their exponential birth rate "

    See response above. In addition a significant part of the costs are for ESL costs which are for students from families who pay neirther tuition or, for the most part real estate taxes either. As opposed to Jewish homeowners who are paying taxes and the number of new homes and expanded homes are bringing in ever increasing real estate taxes.

    I know that real estate taxes in East Ramapo have increased much more than 7.5% over the last five years, and the overall school budget has increased by almost 30% over that time period (And that is much more that the entire transportation budget plus a goodly percentage of the entire special education budget, for public and non public schools). What has decreased is the state funding.

    "Special ed services in public schools are significantly cheaper than in private schools."

    This is not factual (At least in East Ramapo) It is a claim that has been disproven time and again. The costs paid by the school board to the most well known of the "Jewish" special education schools in ER is actually significantly LESS that the costs of the teaching the children in the public schools. And the actual number of children placed in non public schools in East Ramapo is less than 100.

    Posted 4 hours ago #

53. zahavasdad
    zahavasoneluckygirl

    If they don't want Jews because the Jews do things that are uniquely Jewish, that I would call anti-semitism.

    If a group of people who own non-kosher restaurants, bakeries and such found out that orhtodox jews were moving to their area and they opposed it, Is this Anti-Semitism (This happend in the hamptons ...Bakeries and restaurants did not want orhtodox jews moving into their area because they would not patronize their stores and they'd be out of business

    Posted 4 hours ago #

54. Joseph
    Member

    What if Flatbush makes sure no one sells homes to Muslims since they only eat Halal meat and that would cause the butchers to lose out? Would the Department of Justice/HUD consider that an anti-Muslim violation of the Fair Housing Act?

    Posted 3 hours ago #

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