The post about RT motzei shabbos got me to post this
Why aren't people makpid on the zman of the magen avraham for sof zman krias shma? (I for one am)
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Posted 4 months ago #
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Why aren't people makpid on the zman of the magen avraham for sof zman krias shma? (I for one am)
You're far from the only one.
Posted 4 months ago # -
I assume that your question is that we poskin that Shma is D'Orayos and that therefore sofek D'Orayso Lechumra.
That being said, R' Moshe writes that the Chofetz Chaim poskined like the Gra [and that the Gra poskined like the Gra].
The Chazon Ish also poskined that we can rely L'chatchilo like the Gra.
So perhaps the real question is why the Chazon Ish, the Chofetz Chaim and R' Moshe did not think that this was a sofek and poskined L'Chatchilo like the Gra.
R'Aharon Kotler and the Steipler were makpid on the zman of the Mogen Avrohom. Do you think it is a problem for people who rely on the psak of the Chofetz Chaim, R' Moshe, and the Chazon Ish?Posted 4 months ago # -
Sorry, I guess my question should've been phrased like this
Why isn't the hamon am machmir like the magen avraham if you said shma by that zman wouldn't you be yotzei l'chol hadeios. Isn't it better to follow a halacha like both the magen avraham and the gr"a
Posted 4 months ago # -
Why isn't the hamon am machmir like the magen avraham if you said shma by that zman wouldn't you be yotzei l'chol hadeios.
Because the hamon am isn't necessarily more makpid on being yotzei l'chol hadeios than they are on a few more minutes of sleep.
Posted 3 months ago # -
I am machmir in the mitzvah of oneg Shabbos to sleep extra late and therefore rely on the gr"a on Shabbos
Posted 3 months ago # -
well, it really depends whom you consider "hamon am", most of the hamon am I'm surrounded by, the majority is makpid for Magen Avraham l'chatchila, only some would rely on the Gr"a.
BTW, the Chabadnik's are also relying on that second zeman, cuz the Shulchan aruch harav (Tanya) also accepted that zeman.Posted 3 months ago # -
DaasYochid: Or they feel that the Shittah of the Magen Avraham was completely Nidcheh by the GR"A and therefore isn't something to worry about even Lechatchilah. Not every Machlokes is an opening for a Chumra. (Although I did find a Tosafos Rabbeinu Peretz in the beginning of Pesachim that agrees with the M"A.)
Posted 3 months ago # -
Better question - Why are people not makpid on the Mogen Avrohom's zman for Krias Shema which is M'Deoraisa, and would never be maikil like the GR'A on Erev Pesach for Sof Zman Achilas Chometz - which is only M'Derabanan?
You would think that someone who ate chometz after the MG"A zman on Erev Pesach was a shaigetz.
Posted 3 months ago # -
BP: Really? It never matters to me because all of our Chametz is gone by then but I feel like they always give the Gra's Zman for sof Achilas Chametz.
Posted 3 months ago # -
Or they feel that the Shittah of the Magen Avraham was completely Nidcheh by the GR"A
It wasn't.
Posted 3 months ago # -
The very first teshuva in the (new) 9th chelek of Igros Moshe strongly encourages keeping the MG"A's zman for krias Shma.
Posted 3 months ago #
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