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  • #1376649

    Freddyfish
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    😭

    #1377513

    Health
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    The liberals are overjoyed with this incident – to push their agenda!
    The thing that will stop these things is NOT gun control but implementing the Death Penalty.

    #1377536

    👑RebYidd23
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    Health, suicidal people love the death penalty because all they have to do is kill someone.

    #1377551

    Health
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    Yidd 23 – Even in the liberal States, you don’t have to come on to that!
    There is such a thing called Suicide by Cops!

    #1377558

    ubiquitin
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    “There is such a thing called Suicide by Cops!”

    thus undermining your entire argument

    Of course the other thing that undermines your argument is the fact that in countires with stricter gun laws and no death penalty these shootings dont happen

    #1377600

    DovidBT
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    “in countires with stricter gun laws and no death penalty these shootings dont happen”

    You mean places such as England, France, Spain and Israel?

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    #1377612

    Joseph
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    Japan has a death penalty and little murder.

    #1377627

    ubiquitin
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    “You mean places such as England, France, Spain and Israel?”

    Um Yes I mean all those
    And also Belgium, Finland New Zealand Canada, Australia, Germany Holland. Need I go on.?

    Of course that isnt to say mass shootings never happen in those countries, but not on the same level as in the US

    Joseph
    “Japan has a death penalty and little murder.”

    I didnt mean to imply that the Death penalty increases the murder rate, just that it isnt the solution

    #1377685

    Sadigurarebbe
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    Hashem runs the world!

    #1377870

    Health
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    Ubiq – “Of course that isnt to say mass shootings never happen in those countries, but not on the same level as in the US”

    You libs never get it! Do you want to decrease mass shootings here?
    Stop letting in Radical Muslims!
    I know the guy in Florida was born here, but Not the lady in California.

    #1378142

    ubiquitin
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    You libs never get it! Do you want to decrease mass shootings here?
    Stop letting in Radical Muslims!
    I know the guy in Florida was born here, but Not the lady in California

    Wait what?
    Depending on how you count there have been 270 mass shootings in 2017
    How many of thsoe were by Radical Muslims that were let in?

    Even the attack you mention (back in 2015) only one of the attackers fits your description.

    #1378412

    chochom
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    Chabad women was one of the victims…

    #1378420

    Health
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    Ubiq -“Depending on how you count there have been 270 mass shootings in 2017
    How many of thsoe were by Radical Muslims that were let in?”

    Your manipulation knows no bounds!
    For an English teacher you should know the difference between a mass shooting and a multiple shooting.
    And why do we have so many shootings? Because of all the liberal laws!

    #1378440

    ubiquitin
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    Dearest Health

    “For an English teacher”

    wh osaid Im an English teacher. (I sure hope not, my posts are full of awful typos and or/ spelling errors

    “you should know the difference between a mass shooting and a multiple shooting.”
    Never came up in English class, and doesnt come up on google. Im wiling to bet this is yet more made up stuff of yours.
    At any rate a MAss shooting is “A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of firearms-related violence.” (n o charge! fee info enjoy it. now you are smarter than when this thread began) there have been over 250 of these in 2017 alone. not even one was performed by a radical mulsim that we let in. (as far as Im aware)

    “And why do we have so many shootings? Because of all the liberal laws!”
    whcih ones?
    you already said radical muslims cause mass shotings, which we have demonstrated isnt true
    you earlier said death penalty is a deterrence which likewise has been demonstrated as not being true.
    What law are you referring to?

    #1379058

    Health
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    Ubiq -“At any rate a MAss shooting is “A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of firearms-related violence.”

    Excuse Me?!?
    Where do you get your definitions from?

    ” (n o charge! fee info enjoy it. now you are smarter than when this thread began) ”
    That’s funny – you’re going to charge me for your FALSE definition!
    That’s the definition of a MULTIPLE SHOOTING.
    Here is the definition of Mass Shooting from Websters’:
    “: to form or gather into a large group”

    #1379107

    ubiquitin
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    Health!
    Ive missed you how was your Yom tov?

    “Excuse Me?!?”
    No need to ask to be excused, we are far closer than that!

    “Where do you get your definitions from?”
    Wikipedia. IT is sourced to Dallas morning news
    A similar definition is provided by the Congressional Research sefvice where they define “Public MAss shooting” as “These are incidents occurring in relatively public places, involving four or more deaths—not including the shooter(s)—and gunmen who select victims
    somewhat indiscriminately. ” though they acknowledge that ” “There is no broadly agreed-to, specific conceptualization of this issue, ”

    “That’s funny – you’re going to charge me for your FALSE definition!”

    No I wouldn’t charge you! I share my wisdom free of charge , remember?

    “That’s the definition of a MULTIPLE SHOOTING.”
    Well yes, becsue the dsticntion si one you made up. Searching “Defien Multiple shooting” redirects to “Defien Mass shooting”

    Here is the definition of Mass Shooting from Websters’:
    “: to form or gather into a large group”
    1. What version of Websters are you using, the online version doesnt defien it
    2. So “MAss shooting has nothing to do with shooting? It is just “to form or gather into a large group”
    So if we formed or gathered into a large group for a picnic in the park that is synonymous withthere was a mass shooting in the park?

    #1379233

    Health
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    The Wilely dictionary defines mass shooting as 4 or more.
    But I did a google search on “multiple shooting” and the only one that they called Mass was the Vegas one!

    #1379251

    ubiquitin
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    Health

    you do realize that these arent real definitions right?
    Also what is the Wilely dictionary? Ealrier you said “Webster’s” which edition? Id love to look it up
    At any rate If a mass shooting is defined as “4 or more” I’m not sure why the only mas shooting you found was the Vegas one.
    In recent memory the following qualify: Bronx lebanon hospital 7 shot one killed
    Congressional baseball game 5 shot

    (I didint google there are plenty more

    #1379380

    Health
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    Ubiq -“Also what is the Wilely dictionary?”
    A dictionary!

    “Ealrier you said “Webster’s” which edition? Id love to look it up”

    I looked up Mass & added Shooting.
    Look up “Multiple Shooting” on Google!

    #1379435

    ubiquitin
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    ““Also what is the Wilely dictionary?” A dictionary!”

    Is it a secret dictionary? I cant find it on Google, nor AMazon nor Barnes and Nobles

    “I looked up Mass & added Shooting.”
    Ok using this method
    Mass Shooting = Shooting of a large body of persons in a group
    Multiple shooting = A shooting consisting of, including, or involving more than one

    Though it is worth noting that definitions dont really work this way. Particulary legal terms (not that this is a legal term per se)

    Say you tried this method for “man slaughter”
    Man = an individual human
    Slaughter = the act of killing
    Thus yo umay mistankingly conclude that Manslughter -= The act of killing an individual human. Which it does not. Man slaughter as a specific definition. that althou certainly realted to ” The act of killing an individual human” that isnt the full defintion. (I will spare you the details yo ucan look it up though dont use Wlilely Dictionary Websters has an entry for Manslaughter)

    At any rate the Congressional review I mentioned aerlier defines the number for a mass shooting as 4 or more
    “Look up “Multiple Shooting” on Google!”
    Yep thats what I did (as I said) . typed in “Define Multiple Shooting”
    The all the first hits mention “mass shooting”

    #1379514

    Health
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    Ubiq -“Is it a secret dictionary?”

    I spelled it wrong. Try Wiley.

    “Yep thats what I did (as I said) . typed in “Define Multiple Shooting””

    Just type in Multiple Shooting, leave out the word Define!

    #1379571

    ubiquitin
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    Wiley is a publisher. I don’t think there is such as a thing as “Wiley dictionary”
    “Just type in Multiple Shooting, leave out the word Define!”

    Did that too.
    I get when I type in “multiple shooting” I get several hits to mass shootings including the congressional baseball game, a mass shooting in Chelsea in may. An Orlando workplace shooting in Orlando in june. A mass shooting in a nightclub in little rock. Etc etc all these are labeled mass?shootingvand or multiple shooting often in the same article.
    See for example this article “Multiple shooting, police chase leave at least 3 dead” about a shooting in Savannah on July.
    The article begins “The Savannah-Chatham Metropolitan Police Department is investigating after a mass shooting …”

    There does not seem to be a real or practical difference between the two

    #1379594

    Health
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    Ubiq -“I get when I type in “multiple shooting” I get several hits to mass shootings”

    Try SHOOTINGS! I just did multiple shootings. It does come out one mass shooting – Vegas. But the rest
    are just Multiple Shootings!

    #1379690

    ubiquitin
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    Health

    We werent talking about “multiple shootingS”
    Although even in that case Most hits relate to Mass shootings
    There are a few stories about several different shooting events occuring at a close time as in there were Multiple shootings in Chicago today. But that isnt what we are discussing (see your first post “difference between a mass shooting and a multiple shooting.”)

    But a “Mass shooting” and a “Multiple shooting” are used interchangeably.
    I gave you an example in my previosu post

    I

    #1379775

    Health
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    Ubiq -“But a “Mass shooting” and a “Multiple shooting” are used interchangeably.”

    Sometimes they are; but mostly the News differentiates between Mass & Multiple!

    #1379789

    ubiquitin
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    ““But a “Mass shooting” and a “Multiple shooting” are used interchangeably.”

    Great so you concende “Sometimes they are;”

    So why are you hacking a chainek?

    #1380641

    YW fan
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    Freddyfish, I am sorry that this thread turned into what it turned into. Seems like no one else is really interested in sympathizing with the victims (I for one DO sympathize). All anyone seems to care about is gun control. I think the talk about gun control should be saved for a different thread

    #1380776

    ubiquitin
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    YW fan

    Foolishness

    First of all the victims families arent turning to YWN to look for sympathy so having a thread to provide condolence/sympathy doesnt make a lot of sense.

    Secondly the best way to sympathize is to try to prevent it from happening again.

    (Of course it isnt like this thread will have actual affect in that regard either, but at least that makes for good discussion. Ok so Freddyfish provided 😭 I provide 😭😭 thats twice as much sympathy as the OP! can I join you on your high horse?)

    #1381238

    YW fan
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    #1381241

    YW fan
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    ubiquitin, https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/50-good-reasons-to-outlaw-automatic-weapons. What do you think this thread is for?? Chill out!

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