New Uncle Moishy???

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    The Frumguy
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    What are those posters all around Brooklyn advertising a NEW Uncle Moishy sound and website? Is he no longer working with Suki and Ding?

    #1366252

    yitzyk
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    Maybe it means the same guy, but a new sound – perhaps his voice changed? The posters are very uninformative. I can’t tell if it is a new album, a concert, or whatever?

    I also noticed that on the posters his beard is white!!

    #1366342

    yitzyk
    Participant

    Mystery solved, thanks to Google.

    “The phone rang one day and I was asked by one of Uncle Moishy’s sons to create a new cartoon mascot character of Uncle Moishy. ”

    From there on it was taken over by a ‘Marketing Company’ so basically it is the same singer (with a white beard) we all know and loved, with some over-the-top rebranding. “New” refers to his new CD and his new Avatar.

    #1366345

    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    Per the new website he seems to be produced by “Sonic Duo” now, not Suki and Ding. The new mascot looks cute and reflects his current look much more (he’s been gray for quite some time now but the drawings never showed that)

    #1366439

    👑RebYidd23
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    Same initials.

    #1377758

    The Frumguy
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    I don’t even see any advertisements for a concert this coming Chol Hamo’ed. Unheard of!

    #1428472

    Yidkid
    Member

    I know the coffee room drips from sarcasm sometimes, but does anyone have a clue why suddenly there are two different “Uncle Moshe” concerts – at the same time – the same day – by two different people????

    I kid you not.

    One is the regular good old jolly fellow that many kids grew up listening to, and the other is a young guy – also wearing a “Mem” on his hat.

    Any input folks?

    #1428476

    Joseph
    Participant

    Must be a marketing gimmick.

    #1428486

    Joseph
    Participant

    Totally speculating, but this might be Uncle Moshe’s way of introducing a successor before his retirement. By pretending there’s a “competing” Uncle Moshe (which can’t be the case due to trademark law), thus stirring up interest in the whole Uncle Moshe business, while at the same time getting people acquainted with next generation of UM.

    #1428489

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    What ever could have made you think the people here can be sarcastic?

    #1428725

    Takes2-2tango
    Participant

    How can u trade mark an “uncle moishy”
    Practically every family has at least one uncle moishy.
    Are you saying my uncle moishy can not have his own concert with out infringing on a copywrite?

    #1428728

    Joseph
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    Btw, does everyone remember Uncle Yossi and his storytelling?

    #1428730

    iacisrmma
    Participant

    Joseph: Suki and Ding split up and the “original” Uncle Moishy split from them. From what I understand either Suki or Ding holds the rights to the Uncle Moishy “name” and therefore they can market a “new” Uncle Moishy that is not related to the original “Uncle Moishy”.

    #1428736

    takahmamash
    Participant

    When Uncle Moishy first became popular, there were two – one did the recordings, the other did the live gigs.

    #1428891

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Suki and Ding split up

    The poster for the new Uncle Moishy’s concerts say it’s a Suki and Ding prodution. Although, I’m not sure how much Suki, who lives in Eretz Yisroel, has had to do with concert production.

    #1429042

    yitzchokm
    Participant

    The original UM (Rabbi T) split up with S&D.

    They are arguing about ownership

    #1429064

    Jersey Jew
    Participant

    Suki and Ding have NOT split.

    What makes sense is that Uncle Moishy probably had a contract that expired and he wanted to take control of the franchise.

    The “Uncle Moishy” franchise so to speak, is trademarked, either by S&D or by the original Uncle Moishy and that is the underlying issue.

    So why S&D had to come out with a new Uncle Moishy instead is calling him something else like Fred is beyond me. Unless the guy’s real name is Moshe, in which case they get a pass.

    #1429065

    Jersey Jew
    Participant

    Two competing Uncle Moishy characters is no good.

    NO ONE WILL WIN!!!

    Uncle Moishy AND the kids are the major loosers in this one.

    #1429073

    Joseph
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    “How can u trade mark an “uncle moishy”
    “Practically every family has at least one uncle moishy.
    Are you saying my uncle moishy can not have his own concert with out infringing on a copywrite?”

    How can someone trademark “Martha Stewart”? Mrs. Stewart certainly isn’t the only Martha Stewart out there. Do you think the other Martha Stewart’s can publish cookbooks, magazines and a line of clothing under her name?

    #1429078

    Joseph
    Participant

    “So why S&D had to come out with a new Uncle Moishy instead is calling him something else like Fred is beyond me. Unless the guy’s real name is Moshe, in which case they get a pass.”

    Uncle Fred or Uncle Chaim doesn’t have the goodwill and name recognition by kids and their parents that the name Uncle Moishy has.

    Whatever the artist’s real first name is, is not that important. He can choose to use a pen name or trade name when acting, that’s different than his personal name. Many do exactly that with great success.

    A businessman who does business even under his full personal name can sell the rights to the name or business and then he no longer has the right to sell that service under his name. If Charles Schwab sells his brokerage firm, he cannot start a new brokerage firm under his name — since the new owners of Charles Schwab have the rights to the name and trademark.

    These are all generic points; I have no idea what happened with the ownership or rights to the Uncle Moishy name and business. (And it is a business and trademark.)

    #1429075

    Joseph
    Participant

    What’s so inherently bad for kids if they have two Uncle Moishy’s? Nothing that I can fathom.

    #1429093

    Bitul
    Participant

    @ JOSEPH
    you mean country yossi?

    #1429104

    litvishechossid
    Participant

    who cares

    #1429126

    Joseph
    Participant

    No, Uncle Yossi.

    #1429480

    Also known as Reb Yosef Goldstein.

    #1429637

    streekgeek
    Participant

    Btw, does everyone remember Uncle Yossi and his storytelling?

    Yes! He’s a relative of mine and I grew up with his animation videos. Love that they sell them as books now. My daughter loves them!

    #1429910

    chabadgal
    Participant

    This is what I understood happened- Uncle koishy is restarting seperate from suki and ding, he’s using completely new songs and everything except for some really old ones cuz they own the rights to everything. Suki and ding got a new uncle moishy to replace him.

    #1430016

    Geordie613
    Participant

    If you can have two Satmar rebbes, two Bobover Rebbes, Hey dum diddly dum, why can’t you have two Uncle Moishy’s?
    The original Uncle Moishy has parted with Suki & Ding. He is actually Uncle Moishy. So he’s gone with Sonic Duo. But Suki & Ding own the name Uncle Moishy, so they’ve created their own new Uncle Moishy complete with black hat with big Mem.
    The Mitzva men and cousin Nachum are all fighting amongst each other now. Some are Sukoinim, others are Duoinim. It’s all very sad. Big Gedalia Goomber hasn’t decided yet what he’s doing.

    #1430078

    Joseph
    Participant

    If S&D own the naming rights to Uncle Moishy, then the original artist who played UM, even if his first name is Moishy, would have no legal rights to use the UM name.

    #1430072

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Show me the trademark.

    #1430110

    Joseph
    Participant

    If there’s no trademark, then every Chaim, Yankel and Moishy can start their own Uncle Moishy concert.

    #1430105

    Yserbius123
    Participant

    FYI: I believe that the “Uncle Moishy” from the first album was a different guy than the current one who did all the rest.

    Hands in the air if he took your elementary school picture too, with boys posing with the hands crossed on the right arm of a chair.

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