Rabbi's Expulsion from Russia

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    Lightbrite
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    Rabbi Ari Edelkopf, his wife, and their seven children were just expelled from Russia because they were classified as a security threat.

    So scary

    #1216581
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    So while you’re posting about whether or not Chareidi is a reactionary movement with all of your impressive knowledge of Jewish history…

    Will you please explain how that history ties into Russian Jewry?

    And thus latest sanction against the rabbi?

    Thank you 🙂

    Serious statement ?

    #1216582
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Marked by the ? sincerity diamond of genuine words that express what they say literally.

    And/or you can have…

    The ? serious spade for digging bridge foundations.

    The ^ little kippa of light for thinking of good things.

    Please note: Do to it’s unequivocal rejection, the sympathy diamond has been discontinued.

    However, today’s ? sincerity diamond is still in rotation and may be used to express another quality in the future. Thank you for your business.

    #1216583
    huju
    Participant

    Being kicked out of Russia is way less scary than being told you cannot leave Russia, or that you have to relocate to eastern Russia.

    #1216584
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Touche. But when your rabbi or rebbetzin or neighbor or friend or classmate or family is kicked out of Russia, what’s the impact on current Russian Jewry?

    #1216585
    huju
    Participant

    If a rabbi and his family are kicked out of Russia, maybe it will inspire the others in his community to follow him out. Everybody wins.

    #1216586
    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Go where? America? Israel?

    For those who have a life there and history that they are attached to and can observe the commandments and find inspiration where they are, why do they have to leave?

    Is it not still a traumatic way to be pushed out?

    Why is this a good thing?

    Yes everything Hashem does is for the good. Still there can be sweet good and the same result but it doesn’t have to come with pain that may affect other aspects of one’s well-being, currently and intergenerationally.

    #1216587
    Nechomah
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    My husband is Russian. Left before the curtain fell, just nissim that he and his parents escaped. Life was not easy then. Now it is supposedly easier, but there is still a lot of antisemitism and, to be honest, even though the current government is not Communist, there are still issues with respecting human and religious rights. The people who were born and grew up there may very well be keeping mitzvos now, but there is probably still an element of fear of being caught and having problems because of that. They may not know what it’s like on the outside. Many are very happy after they leave. It’s not easy to stay and not necessarily easy to go.

    As far as everything that Hashem does is for the good, then your concerns about the “pain that may affect other aspects of one’s well-being, currently and intergenerationally” (not sure I understand what this means), it means that even the pain is good. If a person truly understands that this pain is for his/her growth and does not get bogged down in it, then it will be used as a stepping stool for further growth in areas down the road. Not all good seems “sweet” to us over here, it can be painful, but a person has to ask Hashem that they should see the sweetness of it, hopefully while they are going through it, but if not then, then afterwards Hashem should give them clarity why they went through such an experience.

    Remember that Yaakov had to go down to Mitzrayim. It was necessary for him and his 12 sons to be in Mitzrayim. But Yaakov did not want to go. Yaakov wanted to be a “ger” but stay in EY, but HKBH said, no, in Mitzrayim. Even when Hashem sent a hunger, he stayed behind and sent his sons to Mitzrayim to get food and bring it back. Hashem realized that it would take more to get Yaakov to go, so the whole story of Yosef going to Mitzrayim happened in order to bring Yaakov there. All this in order to fulfill all of the promises Hashem made with Avraham Avinu. We cannot think that we know better.

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