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    Gedolim had (and have personalities) independent of their gadlus. A person can be a gadol and also be shy. It does not necessarily mean we should all aspire to be as shy as that gadol. Even if an Artscroll book describes it as “anava”. “He was such an anav that he was uncomfortable meeting new people”.

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    hal
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    good point!

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    Randomex
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      The Alter of Slabodka had eim’sa d’tzibbura (Reb Yaakov, ArtScroll).

    So, Veltz, why did we need to be reminded of this?

    By the way, did you know that you apparently don’t have a profile?

    Or did you disable public view of it? If so, how is that done?

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    sem613
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    randomex, the profile doesn’t show because he has a 2 word username. you have to replace the space (that turns into “%20”) with a –

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    Randomex: Funny you should point to the R’ Yaakov book – that is exactly what led me to post this. Someone else mentioned to me that the Alter was very shy and had stage fright. I asked him where he knew that from, and he pointed to the R’ Yaakov book, which I had read many times. I was surprised that I didn’t remember reading that. Then he showed me where it said he had “eim’sa ditzibbura” and I thought, I wish I was a gadol so that my struggles with obesity would be described as “ahavas maa’chal”.

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Nah, ahavas maachal doesn’t sound good. “Eim’sa d’taanisa” sounds better.

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    Sam2
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    DY: No, it would be described as an overwhelming desire to make Brachos and appreciate what HKBH gave us in this world.

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    HaLeiVi
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    Or, he was never fed up.

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Those are better, but we need good Aramaic expressions for them.

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    ????? ???????

    #1038536
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    By the way, did you know that you apparently don’t have a profile?

    It’s because he’s an anav.

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    golfer
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    Many thanks, DY, for putting a problem I have struggled with into proper perspective.

    Apparently, unbeknownst to me, I have great kissufah dibirchasa.

    (I”ll have to make sure my biographer gets the spelling right.)

    What’s the feminine version of a Gadol?

    #1038538
    lz
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    i have found rashi to have a good sense of humor.

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    ??????, transilerated into English as gadol-eat.

    #1038540
    golfer
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    Gee thanks, DY.

    #1038541
    Randomex
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    On the subject, gedolim also do things we might not think of them doing. The Ramchal is renowned to the outside world as a poet and playwright. Wikipedia:

    Luzzatto also wrote poetry and drama, most of it seeming secular on the surface, but many scholars have identified mystical undertones in this body of work as well).

    Many others wrote poetry as well, e.g. R’ Yehuda haLevi (Kuzari) and “Solomon ibn Gabirol” (I don’t know how to say that in heimish).

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Always glad to help, golfer.

    #1038543
    HaLeiVi
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    Is Marrei D’Pita too great of a title?

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    In my case, more like ???? ?????.

    #1038545
    Sam2
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    I once found a Haskama for a Sefer that praised the author with the line “Mibirchisa Chavita Leih”. Look up the context in the first Perek of Kesubos…

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    poppas abba
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    veltz, how about “he would often engage in tikun hanitzotzis shebmaachal, specifically gefilte fish”.

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    Randomex
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    On second thought, I don’t think the particular things that make a person nervous count as personality traits.

    But the fact is obvious, I assume, to anyone who’s had extended personal contact with multiple gedolim, and it’s simply common sense. (Again, why did we need reminding of it, Veltz?)

    R’ Mendel Kaplan said (not exact quote): “Do you think people in earlier times were bigger tzaddikim? They were bigger people.”

    (R’ Mendel and his Wisdom, probably ArtScroll)

    Sam2:

    “Look up the context in the first Perek of Kesubos…”

    Could I ask you for a more specific reference? (Yes, I know…)

    DaasYochid:

    How would you feel about ???? ????? as a subtitle?

    (Are Hebrew subtitles even possible?)

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