March 12, 2017 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #619459
Is there any seminary that would be good for a girl who finished at a bais yaakov high school and never went to seminary?
March 13, 2017 12:10 am at 12:10 am #1229586
how old is the girl? 20?
March 13, 2017 12:14 am at 12:14 am #1229587
Neve would probably be a good option. I have known BY graduates who went there and felt they got a lot out of it.
March 13, 2017 12:15 am at 12:15 am #1229588
Lilmod, which part of Neve should I ask about?
March 13, 2017 12:32 am at 12:32 am #1229589
I was thinking of the regular Neve program. Within the regular Neve, there are different levels. You would have to discuss that with them when you apply.
It does seem to me that Neve may be the best option at least from anything that I know of.
March 13, 2017 1:05 am at 1:05 am #1229590
They said it is for secular girls. Is there a program that you recommend I ask for? What is there highest level?
March 13, 2017 1:11 am at 1:11 am #1229591
It’s for secular girls, but they often have BY or Yeshiva graduates. However, it’s possible that this has changed. You would have to ask them. I would think that a BY graduate could always go even if turns out that it is not so common, but again, you would have to ask.
Even if it turns out that it’s less common today (which I’m not sure about), one fact still remains the same and that is the fact that there is a tremendous amount that BY graduates can get out of it. That is why they used to go (and perhaps still do). They often feel that they learn things at Neve that they never learned in Bais Yaakov. I have heard this from one more than one BY grad who went to Neve.
March 14, 2017 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1229592
What is meorot?
March 16, 2017 1:20 pm at 1:20 pm #1229593
Lilmod, those girls went to Shalhaves which is a program part of Neve. They did not go to the one meant for girls becoming religious. I am still in search of a seminary and badly want to go but Neve said I should go to one more religious. So the question is where should I go? I need one for girls past seminary age that never went to seminary.
March 17, 2017 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #1237883
You might want to try Midreshet Rachel. It’s located in Yerushalayim. I know the Rosh Midrasha personally, and he’s an excellent teacher, as well as a phenomenal resource if you need advice on any issue. Most of the students are ba’alei teshuva, but some are FFB’s. They are known to have a solid program with levels from beginning to advanced learning. I don’t know your age, but most of the students have finished a first degree, so are in their early twenties and up.
March 17, 2017 6:08 pm at 6:08 pm #1237970
JGS613, perfect timing. That is the seminary I am looking into now. How religious are they (they said modern orthodox but how modern?)? Is it good for a young girl who is in her young 20’s?
March 19, 2017 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #1238866
Midreshet Rachayl is a good idea as well. I was also thinking of that. I haven’t been involved with the school in years so I can’t tell you who goes there now. I think they used to have girls from approximately 19 or 20 and up, but I don’t know how many, or if they do now.
I’m surprised they described themselves as modern orthodox. Were they talking about the students or the staff? I wouldn’t have called the school modern orthodox, but I guess that depends how you define your terms. The hashkafa of the school/staff is in-betweenish. Seriously Frum, but somewhat of a range of hashkafos.
March 19, 2017 9:41 pm at 9:41 pm #1238933
Lilmod, are the students MO?
March 19, 2017 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #1238959
I don’t know. Like I said, I have had no involvement with the school for many years, and even then, my involvement was limited. These things can change a lot over the years.
At the time, most were baalei teshuvas, so they didn’t necessarily fit into the same categories as FFB’s do exactly. I think that most of them were still at a stage where they were growing religiously and they weren’t ready to pigeonhole themselves into a label yet. The school itself does not pressure the students to fit into a specific category. I always thought of the school as being closer to Yeshivish than to MO. My impression was that the students were a bit of a mix, but also closer to Yeshivish than to MO, but again, I can’t tell you for sure. From what I know of it, it seems to me that it would be a good match for you hashkafically.
My main concern for you would be the age level.
March 19, 2017 9:53 pm at 9:53 pm #1238960
btw, when I mentioned Neve, I wasn’t talking about Shalheves. I know BY graduates who were in the regular part of Neve. I wonder if Neve told you it wasn’t for you because they had an incorrect impression of where you are holding.
Also, why didn’t you apply to Shalhevet?
March 19, 2017 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #1238973
Lilmod, you hit the snail on the head. Good for you.
March 19, 2017 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #1238990
I think it’s a nail actually. Although my sister used to mix metaphors and hit the hammer on the nail.
In what way did I hit the nail on the head?
March 19, 2017 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #1239016
Lilmod, because you said that it would be a good seminary for me.
March 20, 2017 12:06 am at 12:06 am #1239020
Which one – Midreshet Rachel?
March 20, 2017 12:35 am at 12:35 am #1239055
March 23, 2017 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm #1243241
I would not call Midreshet Rachel modern orthodox, which aside from being a term I dislike immensely, is also extremely vague and subject to broad interpretation. Having attended Darche Noam/Shapell’s (Midreshet Rachel is the women’s school) for 3 years, and having benefited tremendously from what they had to offer, I think that the educational staff is first rate. Being that you come from a Bais Yaakov high school, you should be aware that the staff comes from all segments of the Torah world, from Litvish yeshivish to chassidish, and from YU to Dati Leumi. The beauty of having such a diverse staff is that you, as a student, can explore which derech is right for you and your avodas Hashem. It’s not just picking the derech, but also being able to understand WHY that derech is the best one for you.
Perhaps the most beautiful part of Shapell’s (and Midreshet Rachel by extension) is that Jews from varied backgrounds and experiences come together to learn Torah side by side, in an atmosphere that is permeated with Ahavas Yisrael.
In terms of the students, based on the guys who were there when I was there, practically all of them were committed to living a Torah based life, although they were certainly on various levels.
This is just my opinion, based on my humble experience. Best of luck in choosing the right seminary for you!
March 24, 2017 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #1243419
JGS613, very nice. It sounds very good. But I assume that you mean whether I am yeshivish or stay the same not go to a lower medraga?
March 24, 2017 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #1243431
JGS613, I want to know how the shidduchim are for the medreshet rochel vchaya and darchei noam boys are? I am assuming since there are many girls from that seminary and many boys from that yeshiva looking for shidduchim they probably try making shidduchim between them? What kind of girls are the darchei noam boys looking for?
March 26, 2017 2:51 am at 2:51 am #1243555
Reb shidduch, you should pick a seminary based on what is the best place for you to learn and grow, both spiritually and emotionally, and not based on what is the best place to meet boys.
March 26, 2017 6:40 am at 6:40 am #1243564
JGS613 – +1. Thank you for your clearly written description coming from someone who has more recent information than I do. Your description fits my impression of the school. My one concern for Rebshidduch was that my impression of Midreshet Rachayl (from what I knew about the school many years ago) was that most of the students were at a different stage of life than Rebshidduch, and I wasn’t sure if it was so matim for someone at her stage of life. I am wondering what you know about that.
In terms of that, I would think that Neve would be more matim for her, since they have a lot of younger students.
March 26, 2017 10:57 am at 10:57 am #1243921
winiethepooh, I agree 100%. But this is the best seminary for me either way.
March 26, 2017 11:51 am at 11:51 am #1243928
Lilmod, I was talking to my teacher from the shiurim I go to and she knows me personally. So she is trying to help me find the right seminary and is helping me look into Medreshet Rochel VChaya.
March 27, 2017 7:25 am at 7:25 am #1244369
Rebshidduch – that is wonderful!!! I am so happy that you are speaking to someone who knows you about this! If she thinks it’s right for you and she knows you, then you should definitely listen to her advice.
March 27, 2017 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #1244843
Perhaps I made an unfair assumption that if you went to a BY high school, your exposure to various Torah outlooks might be limited. Of course, one can be exposed to various approaches through your shul, social circles, your parents’ friends, etc. I merely meant to make you aware that you would have the ability to learn from and gain an appreciation of the various paths in the Torah world, which you may not have been exposed to in BY.
No arguments from me regarding the stage of life issue, but I don’t know Rebshidduch’s age. Again, most of the students at MR are 22-23 and up, but I had a friend who went to Darche Noam as a 21 year old, and did very well there.
Ultimately, one’s choice of seminary (or yeshiva) should be based on what is best for your own growth in Avodas Hashem.
In terms of shidduchim, I don’t know if there is a specific type of girl that a Darche Noam boy looks for. I would like to think that each boy, being intelligent and on a path of growth in Yiddishkeit, would be looking for similar qualities in a prospective shidduch.
March 27, 2017 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #1244857
JGS613, thank you for that. I do not mind to be around and date people older than me because I am very use to that. In fact so much so that I do not like being around people younger than in there 20’s.
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