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  • #1225528

    Joseph
    Participant

    It took seven years, but enjoy the new CR features, folks.

    #1225529

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    MW13: “i think stronger censoring of lashon hara and general bashing would be great.”

    mw13 – + 1 googol!

    #1225530

    πŸ‘‘RebYidd23
    Participant

    To reply to comment from 6 months ago, does etc. include spam?

    #1225531

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    RY, if you’re replying to a comment from 6 months ago, it might be a good idea to say which poster (and which comment) you are referring to, or it’s unlikely that anyone will know whom you are referring to.

    #1225532

    yehudayona
    Participant

    How about doing a little proofreading? And making sure videos correspond to articles? Toning down the flashing ads before they cause seizures? Showing less political bias?

    #1225538

    Joseph
    Participant

    One of of the errors fixed with the CR upgrade this week was the incorrect post count on threads you posted on (that was showing one more than actual.)

    Another one that might have been fixed was when linking directly to an individual post it used to cut off the posts on top of it on the same page.

    #1225539

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Joseph – I think it always shows all the posts that have been posted even if they weren’t moderated yet. So if you post on a thread, even if it wasn’t moderated yet, it will show up in the post thread.

    Is that what you are referring to?

    #1225540

    Joseph
    Participant

    No. When you were logged in, the total post count displayed on top of the thread, for threads you participated in it used to show a number that was one more than the actual number of posts.

    #1225541

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I think that I thought you meant that it didn’t used to do that and now it does.

    But in any case, I never thought of it as an error. I thought it’s just including all the posts, moderated or not.

    #1225542

    Joseph
    Participant

    It does include a count of all posts, including your own unmoderated posts. But even so it used to be one more than actual. (And if you didn’t have any unmoderated posts, it would also have one more than actual.) If you logged out the count would go down by one.

    #1225543

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I realize now what you meant. I always assumed that it was counting the Thread Title. Which actually makes no sense, but since I just assumed that’s what it was counting, I didn’t think of it as “one extra” and I just assumed it was meant to be that way.

    #1225546

    I see and not just that. There’s more Joseph πŸ˜‰

    #1225547

    american_yerushalmi
    Participant

    Checking back to the OP’s question. I sincerely think YWN needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and decide if this website is a chareidi yeshiva website or is it going to be a mouthpiece for other brands of Orthodox. I realize that there might be financial considerations regarding sponsors, advertisers, etc. And perhaps even particular ideological inclinations of the site owners. One thing is certain: MO/Dati Leumi folks are likely not too interested in the latest Satmar wedding, Melave Malka by the Rachmastrivska Rebbe, or hespedim that were delivered in Ponevitz Yeshiva a few days ago. On the other hand, chareidi yeshiva types are not eagerly in need of information on the latest group of American kids volunteering for the IDF, or the most recent group of fighter pilots who just graduated their training course in the Israeli Air Force, or the latest marathon conducted in Tel Aviv or even in Jerusalem. The founders of Chareidi media a century ago or so understood that the ultimate purpose of said media (back then it was just newspapers; today of course, there are also websites, video clips, etc.) was to propagate the Chareidi hashkafa as a counterweight to all the other “hashkafos” that were (are!) inundating the Jewish world. It’s really not possible to satisfy everyone and every hashkafa. So, YWN has to decide what it’s identity should be. A Chareidi website that, forgive me but, nearly constantly and consistently criticizes the Chareid tzibur as a tzibur is placing itself in the realm of other English “Orthodox/frum” sites who will remain unnamed (but everyone knows who they are) who feel that pathological Chareidi-bashing is practically a mitzva. I’m not saying that we are above criticism. On the contrary, but a public website is not the place for it. We are a heavily maligned (some say threatened) minority in the Jewish world. At least we should stick up for ourselves. When so much of the “Jewish” world is searching with magnifying glasses to uncover and (very often) exaggerate any and every flaw of ours — real or made-up — the proper response of this website would be to counter their claims by aggrandizing the commitment, sincerity, dedication of the Chareidi world to Torah and mitzvos, to chessed, to kiruv, etc. No one reads YWN to obtain general news, including Zionist news. All that is readily available elsewhere. What is not so common is Torah-true hashkafa that reflects the general Chareidi outlook as espoused by the Gedolei Torah. So many of my acquaintances snicker in derision when I mention the YWN website. I’ll spare you the comments most of them make about “(you’re kidding!) THAT website??!? It’s not even a Chareidi site!” I know from reading so many other comments posted by others that I’m not alone in this sentiment. A minor overhaul of YWN’s editorial positions will go a very long way toward a serious upgrade of the site. And, le’ma’an Hashem, please stop imitating those other “religious” websites with their pathological Chareidi-bashing. As Shlomo HaMelech stated, ??? ??? ????? — a person is what he praises; and reveals his true nature by what he praises.

    Hatzlacha rabba!!

    P.S. — although it wasn’t planned, I guess a gantze megilla is in the spirit of Purim!

    #1225548

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    Thanks CR for being here and for all the Posters and Moderators and Editor (s)!… and Readers if you’re out there too πŸ™‚

    Suggestion please:

    All Moderator comments must be Moderated for appropriate content. Any offending comment or post must be omitted.

    On a weekly basis, each Moderator must submit a clear report to the YWN Editor with all of one’s added comments and posts that will be reviewed by YWN Editorial Staff, who will directly report to the Editor with any offending and/or questionable Moderator comments and/or posts.

    I make myself vulnerable before a public audience here. One thing that I live about the CR is that I can speak honestly and from the heart, because I want to grow in Yiddishkeit.

    edit

    May we come and communicate here in peace. Amen.

    THANK you

    #1225549

    Lightbrite
    Participant

    And if this suggestion does not sound worth the time, resources, or expenses to you, then please reevaluate your Moderation team and how much power they have to post without prior YWN company approval.

    Are Moderators any less human when given free reign to insert their place and judgements over Posters?

    Thank you for your time.

    #1238852

    Joseph
    Participant

    Exalted YWN CR programmers and keymasters:

    Please lengthen the “edit” window to 60 or 120 minutes. (It’s been shortened to its default setting with the recent CR upgrade.)

    #1238872

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    What edit button? It seems to have disappeared althogether!

    #1238879

    Joseph
    Participant

    The edit button now only appears after the post has been approved by a mod, whereas previously it was editable even before being approved. That change is also unfortunate and it would benefit to going back to being immediately editable, especially since if the mod approval comes after the edit window closes it will never be editable.

    #1238894

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    How long does the edit window stay on for? I haven’t seen it all!

    And how do you know when your post goes through so you can edit it?

    #1239261

    DaasYochid β˜•
    Participant

    The edit button now only appears after the post has been approved by a mod, whereas previously it was editable even before being approved. That change is also unfortunate and it would benefit to going back to being immediately editable, especially since if the mod approval comes after the edit window closes it will never be editable.

    That’s terrible! It means we actually have to proofread before hitting “send”.

    We really also need edit buttons for texts, emails, and our mouths.

    #1239275

    TheGoq
    Participant

    Now that there are no pages a back to top button at the bottom would be helpful.

    #1239802

    No one reads YWN to obtain general news, including Zionist news.
    All that is readily available elsewhere.

    Just because people can read it somewhere else, it doesn’t mean that
    they actually do. Perhaps they wish to avoid the other websites.

    #1239815

    Fix the typo in the New Topic page name (Home β€Ί Coffeeroom β€Ί New Cofeeroom Topic).

    #1239895

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    I just used the edit button for the first time, and I decided it’s very annoying. All I did was add in a space and an additional quotation mark in order to make my post easier to read, and now my post disappeared.

    It’s been gone for around an hour I think. That wasn’t worth it just for an extra space!

    Meanwhile, other posts that were written since then have appeared, but mine is still gone :(.

    The strange thing is that my name still shows up as the last post even though the post is gone.

    There’s gotta be a way to add in a space w/o having to wait over an hour for your post to reappear!

    #1240717

    Geordie613
    Participant

    I would like to suggest we all get our hard earned (in some cases) subtitles back.

    #1240720

    πŸ‘‘RebYidd23
    Participant

    Negative/neutral feedback is not the same as insulting.

    #1240726

    DaasYochid β˜•
    Participant

    Does “Split” in the thread title mean there has to be a disagreement?

    #1241000

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    RY -thank you.

    edited

    #1241205

    squeak
    Participant

    (Awaiting moderation)

    #1241204

    squeak
    Participant

    I have no suggestions to further improve the CR after this update. It is incredibly awesome. I’m talking about the ability to read posts in a user’s profile. Now I don’t have to look through threads for hidden gems – I can read them all consolidated for me in one place. Awesome!

    #1241179

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    People in charge: I really like the fact that it is much easier now to go back to previous threads that aren’t on the first page. Thank you so much for changing that!!

    I think I also like the general setup much better as well. I think it’s easier to read the posts now.

    #1263668

    Geordie613
    Participant

    WOWOWOW!!!
    Another upgrade. Well done YWN and Duvy’s Media.
    Thank you very much

    #1263687

    tobs
    Participant

    Love this new layout!!!!! Thanx so much to all those involved in making this new setup!

    #1263825

    TheGoq
    Participant

    I like the new look very much good job to all looks so much more professional , one question no more simchas and baruch dayan emes tabs?

    #1263841

    Nechomah
    Participant

    I think the various colors of gray are very. The light is too light and almost not visible. What’s the point. Office 2013 “upgraded” so that it removed all background colors and went to three options of gray for background colors, and received numerous complaints. I do not think having “participant” and “reply” in such a light gray is helpful at all.

    Also, what is the point of having different topics headers where you could put your thread if there is no way to access those topics apart from the main list of topics. The only way I found to get into questions on shidduchim, for example, was to go into a thread on that topic and then once the topic was on the screen somewhere, to click on that link. Too round about. If there is no direct access, who needs them?

    #1263867

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Nechomah – I was wondering about that also. I was assuming that they will create a way to do it but they haven’t put it up yet. The same way they still haven’t put up the way to start a new topic.

    #1263872

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Just to let everyone know (in case you didn’t see my post on another thread):

    You can now hit “reply” on the person’s post whom you are commenting on.

    I think that this is an important feature for posters to utilize. It should make the conversations much more comprehensible and leave less room for misunderstandings.

    #1264078

    Joseph
    Participant

    Obviously this is a work-in-progress, as evidenced by the fact that the recent upgrades have been rolled out over the last month and a half. Give it some more time.

    #1264104

    Nechomah
    Participant

    I agree that this is a WIP, but if we do not give feedback on what we see, how can anybody know what people like and what not? Since I am not aware of a place to go post my ideas or thoughts on the matter, I thought this thread would get the attention of the mods, who will hopefully forward it onto the web designer who is in charge of all of these changes.

    #1264115

    the web designer who is in charge of all of these changes.

    Hmm, I thought I was in charge…

    #1264134

    Joseph
    Participant

    No disagreement about giving feedback. Just wanted to make the point about it being a WIP.

    #1264155

    Nechomah
    Participant

    NP Joseph. Thanks for pointing that out.

    29 – Sorry, hope you weren’t offended. I hope you’re getting paid big bucks for all of the changes you’ve been working on.

    #1264631

    nechomah – no offense taken. I actually have done nothing at all. Well, short of asking for our subtitles back.

    #1264793

    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Why does RebYidd have a gantze megillah on her profile page? Does anyone else have that?

    Is that something we can all put in for ourselves (if we really want to)? Wouldn’t it be more fun if we could put it in for other people?

    #1264960

    Yes, you can put information on your profile page. This last upgrade (or maybe the previous one – I was unable to access profiles in that version) changed the profile pages somewhat. The “Contact Information” fields are probably not publicly visible, while the “About Yourself” section is.

    #1264965

    Here’s a suggestion – a background color that’s easier on the eyes.

    #1264967

    easier than white?

    #1265032

    What’s the new page length?

    #1292617

    This isn’t a suggestion, but I notice that some unapproved posts are visible (as “awaiting moderation”)
    to anyone, but others can only be seen (as “awaiting moderation”) while logged in as that poster.
    Why might this be?

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