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    Joseph
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    Why do goyim have a Sweet 16?

    And why at 16 rather than a Sweet 15, Sweet 14 or Sweet 17?

    And why do they only have it for their girls but not their boys?

    #1333025

    jakob
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    better to not even know the reason(s) or get involved with curiosity. its a goyish thing that yidden should not do although its not a christian religious thing

    #1333066

    huju
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    Joseph: Why not ask some goyim? Nobody here can give you anything but uninformed speculation.

    #1333084

    👑RebYidd23
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    Better than the bitter 16 some people have as people berate them for having an age divisible by four.

    #1333088

    akuperma
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    As for why there is no similar party for boys among the goyim, YWN “censorship” (good taste) rules preclude a discussion . Among Jews, where entering manhood involves reaching new levels of Torah and Mitsvos, we make a party when boys turn 13.

    #1333087

    akuperma
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    I suspect it had to do with the age of consent (the age at which a woman is allowed to marry, and to consent to intimate relations). Among Jews, that age is 12 (for girls) and we often make a fuss about it – even that under Dina Malchusa Dina we do hold that way, de facto. The fact that in most states the age in now 18 (younger girls have to get permission, often from a judge) is irrelevant.

    #1333119

    Joseph
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    huju, I try avoiding goyim where possible.

    #1333250

    Joseph
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    akuperma, the age of consent in the US has traditionally been lower than 16. In New York the youngest age for marriage was 14 until a few months ago. In some other states it’s still 14 and younger.

    #1333283

    lesschumras
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    Joseph, then why do you care?

    #1333322

    huju
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    To Joseph: See the fifth post for an example of the uninformed speculation about which I warned you.

    #1333333

    👑RebYidd23
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    It’s a debut into Society.

    #1333345

    MRS PLONY
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    Some Latin American cultures have a ‘Quincianera’ celebrating a girl turning 15. The Sweet 16 is just a fun party.

    #1333370

    NeutiquamErro
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    Akuperma is correct. This is really not a pleasant topic.

    #1333710

    ColumbiaGrad17
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    How about we stop using the term goyim as a whole? It clearly possesses a significant, negative connotation to a group of people who have done you no harm.

    #1333720

    Meno
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    How about we stop using the term goyim as a whole? It clearly possesses a significant, negative connotation to a group of people who have done you no harm.

    Why would it be worse than any term referring to a person who isn’t Jewish?

    #1333722

    Joseph
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    It has negative connotations for very good reasons. And they most certainly have done us very much harm over the last several thousand years right through the current times.

    #1333728

    👑RebYidd23
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    Joseph, who are “they” specifically?

    #1333732

    ColumbiaGrad17
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    Meno: Not all words are created equal, regardless if they define the same type of person.

    Joseph: Yes, because the billions upon billions of non-Jews who have existed throughout history, have all harmed you personally.

    #1333739

    👑RebYidd23
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    ColumbiaGrad, of all the words there are, this one is comparatively neutral.

    #1333741

    Joseph
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    If they lifted a pinky against any of my ancestors, or against any of Acheinu Bnei Yisroel throughout history, yes they most certainly have harmed me personally.

    #1333742

    Meno
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    Not all words are created equal, regardless if they define the same type of person

    Beautifully said. It really doesn’t answer my question though.

    #1335397

    R4nd0m3x
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    Wikipedia: Even if it is a small party, the main purpose of the party is to celebrate the person becoming “older” and entering a different stage of their life. Typically this is the last big birthday party a teenager would have.

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