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mbachur
yes that sometimes happens
and we usually become aware of the situation in short order
the joseph thing is quite real, you can be absolutely (and i mean that in its rigorous sense) assured of that.
mbachur, for one (1) ner yaccov closed. and 2) that computer never worked(at least I never learned how to use it). Anyway the kids I went to Ner Jake with I dont think would know what Joseph knows. Although the was a kid named Joseph there(but like I said I dont think he would know a lot of this stuff). And before anyone makes judgements on me, I was not a typical ner Jake kid.
I know it closed but other yeshivas in EY might have that too
I was there when it was summer Bein Hazmanim (In a camp, actually the only way I got to find out what was happening in EY was by it
yes that sometimes happens
and we usually become aware of the situation in short order
the joseph thing is quite real, you can be absolutely (and i mean that in its rigorous sense) assured of that
oh like using the same name to make a screen name, I guess so.
I remember you could kind of use the keys to make a mouse. I never really figured it out. Thank G-D I figured out that museum/library in downtown Jerusalem had computers you could use for free on Tuesdays. I think it was called Beit Avi Chai?
mbachur,
They follow the IP address.
They follow the IP address.
thank you I knew that, the thing that I was saying is that it can come from 1 yeshiva
Sorry, I misunderstood you. What did you mean by “oh like using the same name to make a screen name”?
also goodbye and sam2?
the mods say they knew it wasn’t different bachurim,
so i was trying to figure out how they knew
so i said “like using the same (real) name to apply for a screen name”
Got it. But I wonder if there’s a way of tracing an IP address. (I would think Joseph wouldn use different email addresses and names for all of his screen names.)
you would think wrong
Edited to add: The word used here is “wouldn” which I read as wouldn’t as in “Joseph would not use different” to which I replied that is wrong, he does use different emails and names for all screen names
Can we make this thread sticky? It’s fun being famous and the most talked about.
Joseph, are you lacking adequate attention in your real life? I find it surprising that you’re not hiding your head in shame after you’ve been outed this way.
Can we make this thread sticky? It’s fun being famous and the most talked about.
try INfamous,
also I would hate to know you personally, if you like being talked about who knows what you would do for attention
Got it. But I wonder if there’s a way of tracing an IP address. (I would think Joseph would use different email addresses and names for all of his screen names.)
you would think wrong
Wow! So we have two choices:
1) He’s really stupid.
2) He’s not even trying to fool the moderators!
According to choice 1, he’s both a moron and a deceiver.
According to choice 2, he’s just having a good time, and allowing others to have a good time as well.
Did I miss something here?
Edited to add: The word used was “wouldn” which I read as “wouldn’t” as in “Joseph would not use different” to which I replied that is wrong, he does use different emails and names for all screen names
See: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/why-are-you-blocking-my-posts#post-9054
And this thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/science-discovers-tznius-1
Particularly: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/science-discovers-tznius-1#post-9263
And finally: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/science-discovers-tznius-1#post-9365
So what was called hot air above by a mod, is the same thing that happened to others (not myself) years ago here in the CR.
1. You used a known proxy, not a shared IP.
2. You were not on YeshivaNet
3. You also have been making the same comments under different names in the CR and or comments section on the news site.
4. Why the heck do you need to create a new screen name to argue that you are being unfairly targeted and unfairly accused of using multiple screen names?
This is as about as dumb as the guy who was accused of stealing money from vending machines who paid his $500 bail in quarters.
I’ll tell you why he seems son (in)famous. As I wrote before, HaLeivi was blocked (for what reason?, his posts were all informative and well-mannered), so he changed to Ruff Ruff (If you follow content – they’re the same). These individuals acting as Moderators with their ‘auto-anti-Joseph’ apparatus came up with their great idea that he is the Big Fish. Just look at content. All emails to Mods unanswered. The right word is ??????.
Let’s try again –
begin loop
I Know Him Personally. He Is Not Joseph.
end loop
Is Yochie Joseph?
Updated list:
TMB, helpful, Ruff Ruff, Jose, Volvie, Joseph, Sam I Am, gabboim, Bed-Stuy, Eees
Eees is not Joseph. Neither was Ruff Ruff (who now has a new name). (Dont ask me about RuphRuph and RuffRuph, They were blocked simply cause of their names). You did, however, forget to add TheChevra and so right (and a host of older ones which we will not get into now)
Why does Eees say Joseph under it then?
Updated list:
TMB, helpful, Jose, Volvie, Joseph, Sam I Am, gabboim, Bed-Stuy, TheChevra, so right
I’m glad they’ve admitted re: RuffRuff, which I pointed out above and they denied. And they were moida their mistake re: realbrisker and DaveHirsch earlier:
Now we’ll just have to see about a mea cupla on others. Jose is another of their many mistakes. Or maybe the emes doesn’t matter after all.
Does emes matter to you?
Does your usage of multiple screennames constitute emes?
Or is emes only a requirement of others and not you?
If they really want to crack down without causing any collateral damage they should just contract my consultancy services. As you and I both know, Joey, I’ve never been wrong.
What does it mean to make the thread sticky?
This has got to be one of the funniest threads (in a gruesome sort of way) that I’ve seen. And mystifying.
Joseph, what is your agenda? It must take a lot of time and effort to be a multiple personality online. Why?
Are you a political operative? A missionary? A Mea Shearim anti-computer plant? A Shabak agent? Bored with your life? An OTD with an ironic sense of humor?
Tell us before the Mods send you off to limbo forever.
squeaky: You most certainly have been wrong. You once misidentified a poster who listed himself being in Lakewood (hameivin yovin) as being an alter ego. I can fwd you the msg if you wish.
Mid2: They’re the ones in limbo land, lol.
007
1. Why don’t you go out and prove our mistakes the way you always shift the burden of proof onto the one you are debating?
2. Our percentage of outing you versus the false positives is well over 90%, Shame your only defense is pointing out the less than 10%
3. On the positive side, we thank you for only using 1 screen name this past week. Granted you had to create a new one for some odd reason, but it seems like the therapy sessions you so strongly needed are beginning to pay dividends.
Yes squeak, you have been wrong on more than one occasion. Time to step down from your anonymous high horse.
Can we make this thread sticky? It’s
fun being famous and the most
talked about.
Thanks for proving my theory.
Joseph, have you ever read
Catch Me If You Can ?
It’s a story about a certain individual, Frank Abagnale, that fooled nearly half of the world. He swindled millions of dollars by posing as a doctor, pilot, lawyer and more. The FBI and other agencies launched a major manhunt for this con artist until he was arrested in France.
I’m sure many innocent individuals were caught up in this story. The FBI definitely tracked hundreds if not thousands of people before targeting the convict. People were interrogated and questioned while others got cheated. At last, he was caught.
Let it not hearten you that I’m comparing you to Frank Abagnale, perhaps the greatest imposter of all time. Let it not even cross your mind that I am heaping you with praise for your “cleverness.” I’m simply trying to get some sense into the immature lobes of your brain. Frank Abagnale at least made millions of dollars on his act, while you don’t have anything better to do than disrupting fair and honest conversations in the Coffee Room. He made humorous and shrewd attempts to engage in these acts while you’re simply pathetic. However, you too caused anguished for some of us and keep on ruining it for others. My suggestion to you: get a life!
Oh… and if you get arrested and sit in jail one day, come back and share the experience with us…
Sender,
I think my post(see page 1) sounded like I was seconding the post right above mine,
when I actually was AGREEING with your suggestion
that this ongoing attack may constitute cyber-bullying.
When I wrote “No one is that impermeable”,
I meant that by now,
even a “toughie”‘s feelings would be pretty hurt.
Unless Joseph is….M….or …S…..THEN HE DESERVES IT!
he perhaps has multiple personality disorder. he he might be suffering from schytizafrenic which he thinks he’s some one else each time so posts with many different name.
whats really the difference he wants to who cares he can have fun if thats what makes him happy
on the other hand we can all be wrong for a change. and it can be diff people.
The truth is that I really owe some Chareidim an apology. When I began posting on YW, I thought I was a Chareidi. But then I was turned off by a lot of kannaishe posts about various topics from different people here, and I began to think that all Chareidim were taught those hashkafos which I found objectionable. I now believe it was really only one or two individuals who were posting that kannaishe stuff under many usernames, and that most Chareidim do not subscribe to all those beliefs.
Pshute yid- thats the problem.
Pple judge Chareidim by What some minority of non educated, rude, narrow minded Chareidim say/do.
Nd I see it happening in the CR a lot.
Watermelon, what in the world are you talking about?
Wait, no wonder I had no idea what watermelon is talking about, that post was made by ECLIPSE… You are the same person??? I had no idea you switched names. I guess that explains the disappearance of eclipse and the over threading by watermelon…
Am I the only one that likes what Joseph says?
Let him have fun and change names big deal, every ones names are fake so what if he has a few. He has an ideology to push. Let him do it how he wants. No one said you should believe any one
Yunger Mann,
Read this post in which Joseph admits that he uses names that are not identified by the moderators as his. He posts under multiple names (undetected by the moderators) in the same thread, which changes the tone of the whole discussion. I agree that nobody should take anything in an anonymous blog as anything other than food for thought, but the sad reality is that too many people are taking things too literally here. This behavior lacks integrity.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mods-mods/page/9#post-196694
yunger mann,
Am I the only one that likes what Joseph says?
There are positions he has taken that I do agree with. There is a story that I recall, however, where a renowned Posek in Europe once became aware that a certain speaker was coming to town to deliver Torah lectures. The lectures themselves were very good and in line with Torah values, but the speaker had some questionable aspects to his lifestyle. The Posek forbade the man from speaking in his town, and the man went to the Rav to complain, saying, “listen to what I have to say, every word that comes out of my mouth is 100% kosher!” The Posek responded, “yes, but kosher food that is cooked in a traif pot becomes 100% traif.”
As the anonymous moderator appended to one of Joseph’s recent postings, dishonesty in one area casts aspersions on the other areas as well.
He has an ideology to push. Let him do it how he wants. No one said you should believe any one
He wrote to me on a different thread that he is “having fun.” The Torah is not a game! Having a kosher ideology is one thing, but purposefully saying things in an inflammatory manner that don’t have to be said that way, whether true or not, just to laugh at the reaction, can really cause harm and be a chillul Hashem.
Am I the only one that likes what Joseph says?
i usually agree with him, when he states his position in a calm, thoughtful manner.
Daas Yochid / Mod 80
Please show me how to find the url address for a post as DY did above
” http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/mods-mods/page/9#post-196694 “
click on the # just below the post you want and the url will be shown in the address bar
Mod 80 wrote:
Am I the only one that likes what Joseph says?
i usually agree with him, when he states his position in a calm, thoughtful manner.
I used to be a big fan of Joseph before I become a moderator. At that point he became very annoying and even threatening. I started to see another side of him. I realized that he was not a true ehrliche person as he makes himself seem to be. He has done some things which a true ben-Torah should never do.
His agenda I used to like. But then I realized that he approaches it the wrong way. He pushes his agenda which is often correct. But some things are better left unsaid, or should be said in the proper way. When you push things the way he does it is unlikely that you will have a true impact on the people you are trying to reach. The more modern people who he is trying to be mikareiv just think of him as an ultra right wing fanatic and therefore discard everything that he says. He is the boy who cried wolf (sorry wolfish) So when he posts the same stuff under many screen names it makes them look down on all Yeshivish people which can have a very negative effect.
Mod- I totally agree with your post.
I, As a Chassidish woman, was very offended at some of Joseph’s(nd his other names) posts. He made us all look like dunces.
We are not such bad people! We are not narrow minded as he displays us.(Except for some individuals which you’ll find in every community.)
Some of his posts were so ridiculous that I was really embarrassed of his “frumkeit(krumkeit)”.
He painted a TERRIBLE picture of Frum people in general.
I will continue to wonder about his real identity…& how “frum” he really is.
a philosopher I know was philosophizing about why he kept bumping into the same Jews again and again. He said that there were only six Jews in the world, all the rest was done with mirrors.
Bed Stuy – BJA?
guardmytongue is a fine lady,don’t you follow posts before lumping “josephs” together?In one post,she wrote “my husband”…I’m almost positive she’s legit.
I am not asking this accusingly im just curious. How can the mods look at more info than I gave them? An IP address is a private number what gives you the right to look at it if I never gave it to you? I am not trying to be mean I am just genuinely curious.
^MONIS^
onegoal:
Your IP address is not private. Any site you access has access to your IP. It is not like a home address where the only way someone can find it is by asking your or investigating you. It is more like your face that anyone who is looking at you can see. You cannot say that your hair and eye color is private information. So too unless you hide your IP it is public.
onegoal,
The IP address identifies where your computer or device is “located” on the Internet, so communication (transmission of data, e.g., posts to the Coffeeroom) can occur. The YWN computer knows your IP address because it received a message from your computer, and your computer knows the YWN server’s IP address, because it transmitted your post there.
^MONIS^: Whats the prohibition? To ensure they’re not being lied to? When you sign up you are aware, or should/could be aware, that the mods can verify IPs to ensure honesty and integrity.
But I hope/think that at this point, they don’t draw their conclusions from IPs alone.
Sorry an IP isn’t what I thought it was. Those are good points that I didn’t consider.
^MONIS^
eclipse – thanks for defending me. Sometimes I could swear you are the only one reading my posts. I was wondering who you were addressing though, I didn’t see anyone mention me.
And yes, I am certainly ‘legit’.
You have a real gift for chizuk, May you always use it well.
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