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    👑RebYidd23
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    Is there anything?

    #1023832
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Sam2

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    hashem

    #1023834
    Sam2
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    DY: I am very much an Avodah Zarah. There are plenty of people who worship me (I can’t decide just how not-serious I’m being here).

    #1023835
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Hashem

    #1023836
    👑RebYidd23
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    I said things.

    #1023837
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Sam, I’m not mekabel. You’d be assur b’hana’ah, and I wouldn’t be allowed to read and enjoy your posts, and I’m not choshed that you’d be machshil me.

    #1023838
    Sam2
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    DY: I would not be Assur B’hana’ah. I don’t worship myself and Ain Adam Oser Davar She’Eino Shelo. So you can believe me and still enjoy my posts. You could read them to make fun of them even if they were A”Z though, so that’s fine.

    #1023839

    reb yidd, hashem is not a person, so technically, he is a thing

    #1023840
    👑RebYidd23
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    “Thing” does not mean nonperson.

    #1023841
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I just knew you’d find a way to shlug me up. 🙂

    Is ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? davka, or does it actually mean ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????, in which case, it wouldn’t apply to you unless you were an ??? ??????

    #1023842
    Sam2
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    DY: It wouldn’t apply to an Eved K’na’ani either, I assume. A person might have a Kinyan on the E”K but he is not fully “his” in the sense that he has absolute R’shus over him. The “human being-ness”, for lack of a better term, of the E”K still belongs to himself (on a related note, see the Sugya in Gittin about a person who is Mafkir his E”K but died before giving a Shtar Shichrur), which is why the Adon cannot permanently damage him.

    See also Chullin 40a for a related topic.

    #1023843
    YW Moderator-42
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    My wine which I drink in moderation.

    #1023844
    Sam2
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    42: It might not be Avodah Zarah, but I’m certain we can find a way to make it Yein Nesech. (Retroactively, obviously; we could make it Yein Nesech by, you know, being Menasech it, but where’s the fun in that?)

    #1023845
    IvduEsHashemBsimcha
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    Hello Kitty.

    I suppose this is a trick question, because almost anything can be an A.Z. if someone worships it, but inherently, Hello Kitty is not an A.Z.

    Mod 42: Do I smell a pun?

    #1023846
    HaLeiVi
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    Sam, but according to Sefer Chassidim (198) we’d have to be Mechanne Shem.

    Anyhow, to answer the question, the earth, mountains, heaven, sun and company is not, and cannot become, AZ.

    #1023847
    Sam2
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    HaLeiVi: Which question is that answering?

    #1023848
    HaLeiVi
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    First paragraph is about you, second paragraph is answering the OP. Also, Daniel lost out for being worshipped.

    #1023849
    Sam2
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    HaLeiVi: Ah, true. Fair enough. I thought you were saying V’lo HeHarim Eloheihem as to why a person can’t be A”Z. That didn’t make sense.

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