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  1. RaisedEyebrow
    Member

    Can I add another tough choice for today?

    You need to take a city bus to an appointment and you're running late. When it finally arrives, it's packed to the gills and you can barely get on. In addition, the people pressed against the door are of the opposite gender.

    I have 2 questions on this:
    1- Who's responsibility is shomer negiyah?
    2- Out of sensitivity, would you get on or wait for the next bus? You're in a big rush

    To branch off on this- is there any heter for a jewish man to sit next to a jewish girl (or vise versa) on a bus, train etc.?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  2. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the two most sandy ectoplasmic beings on Earth (not to mention the Man on the Moon).

    A jewish man should preferrably find a seat next to a Gentile girl.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  3. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    is that halacha?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  4. squeak
    Makes smalltalk with the two most sandy ectoplasmic beings on Earth (not to mention the Man on the Moon).

    I thought you had me all figured out?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  5. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    I never said I had you all figured out- that was your over-active imagination ASSUMING things from vague phrases that I like to use ;)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  6. an open book
    Member

    do we have a tough choice today?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  7. JayMatt19
    Member

    Tough Choice of the Day (Sorry, I haven't figured out the bold).

    VERY theoretical, but my friend and I had this debate months ago:

    You have $5 to your name. Now, you KNOW what the winning numbers are going to be for tomorrows $100,000,000 lottery drawing (each entry is $1). Do you:

    A) Buy 5 tickets, 1 with all the numbers corect and 4 other with 1 number wrong, thus winning 1 jackpot and 4 runner up prizes?

    or

    B) Buy 5 tickets, all with the same number, so that if someone else gets a jackpot ticket, rather than splitting it 50/50, you will get 5/6th of the jackpot and he will only get 1/6 of the jackpot?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  8. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    JayMatt19-

    <strong>Tough Choice of the Day</strong> will give you the bold text.

    The Mega Millions lottery more often than not produces multiple winners when the jackpot goes into nine-figure territory.
    The last huge jackpot was for $225,000,000.
    There were three grand prize winners.
    Second prize winners got $250,000 each.
    Five-eighths of $225,000,000 = $140,625,000.
    One-eighth of $225,000,000 = $28,125,000.
    $28,125,000 + (4 * $250,000) = $29,125,000.

    While either of these numbers should remove the "oyl haparnasa" from you and several generations of progeny, as well as allow you to keep many worthy tzedokos going for a while, the above numbers (for the Mega Millions prize structure, anyway) clearly show you which way to go.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  9. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    <correction>
    If one additional winning ticket was purchased in addition to the three that won the grand prize, it would have accounted for one-quarter of 225,000,000 and not one-eighth.
    That would result in a total of $56,250,000 + (4 * $250,000) = $57,250,000 (still significantly less than $140,625,000).

    (thanks for the fast post, mod)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  10. anonymisss
    Member

    ames is here! Hurray!! I was waiting for you;)

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  11. an open book
    Member

    :) hi, ames

    Posted 6 years ago #

  12. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    ames-

    In this particular real-life case, buying five grand prize tickets would have netted you an extra 83.5 million.
    You can never know 100% what the best outcome will be, but the odds favor your coming out ahead if you buy multiple first-prize tickets, and the risk/reward dollar amounts by far favor buying all grand-prize tickets.
    (Meaning, if you are the only grand-prize winner you lost $1,000,000 but if even one other person has a grand-prize ticket you then get $187,500,000 instead of $113,500,000).

    Posted 6 years ago #

  13. anonymisss
    Member

    ames, are you grappling with this issue in your life right now? ;)

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  14. JayMatt19
    Member

    Yeh, but how many drawings took place with no jackpot winners allowing the winnings to accumulate to $225,000,000?

    There most have been at least 4 or 5 $100M+ drawings at the very least, so your comment about multiple winners in 9 digit jackpot drawings seems a bit flawed.

    Personally, I think I'd by only 1 jackpot ticket and daven that it is the only one.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  15. Jax
    Member

    ames: then the winners all split the money! they do office pools where they all pool together & buy lots of tickets each week! then say they'll split it! recently they had in the news about an office pool that just won the mega millions!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  16. I can only try
    "We all try. You succeed." George HaChasid - Slayer of Trolls.

    JayMatt19-

    To address your points in order:
    1)Yeh, but how many drawings took place with no jackpot winners allowing the winnings to accumulate to $225,000,000?
    There most have been at least 4 or 5 $100M+ drawings at the very least, so your comment about multiple winners in 9 digit jackpot drawings seems a bit flawed.
    -My wording could have been better. Once there is a winner for a nine-figure jackpot, it seems that quite often there are multiple winners. What percentage of huge-jackpot drawings in which there is a winner have more than one winner? 50%? more? less? I don't know, but multiple winners happens often enough that the extremely disproportionate risk/reward ratio makes it worthwhile to buy the grand-prize tickets. (I also realize that all lottery drawings don't have the same prize structure as Mega Millions).

    2) Personally, I think I'd by only 1 jackpot ticket and daven that it is the only one.
    -Can't argue with that, but that wasn't one of the choices given. I've heard of some ba'alei betochon who buy only one ticket from one Rosh Hashanna to the next. Personally, when I buy a ticket, I buy just one for that reason. My hope is that it's a winner, but only if it's for the better. The very first Australian grand prize winner lost a child to kidnappers who wanted his winnings, and an American who won more than $300,000,000 had such tzoros (including losing a grandchild) that he publicly said that he wished that he'd never won.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  17. anonymisss
    Member

    ames, would you want an acquaintance of yours to offer you a ride if you were standing in the cold?

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  18. CrashOverride
    Member

    Interesting question, JayMatt...will need to think about that one..

    Posted 6 years ago #

  19. oomis
    Best Bubby EVER

    I would have offered the ride, ames.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  20. Jax
    Member

    ames: I've had that in the past while driving! i offer them the ride, the look on their face that someone actually stopped is priceless! they forget the embarrassment, when you get them to their destination faster then that slow bus!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  21. Jax
    Member

    ames: there's always ganna be more chances to give people rides! next time!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  22. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    ames, please be careful about who you let in your car. (A good rule of thumb is to avoid people who ask and only give to people that dont.)

    *kapusta*

    Posted 6 years ago #

  23. kapusta
    CR Queen - “Best of luck. Avoid roasted cabbage, don’t eat earwax, and look on the bright side of life!”

    ames, I dont think just any stranger is bad, most girls at bus stops are ok, but sometimes people come over to the window and ask for rides, those I would stay away from. btw, thats a great attitude.

    *kapusta*

    Posted 6 years ago #

  24. GoldieLoxx
    Member

    we went a day without a tough choice, sad

    Posted 6 years ago #

  25. Jax
    Member

    GoldieLoxx: not all days need tough choices, some days can just be plain great days! ;)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  26. JayMatt19
    Member

    Tough Choice of the Day

    You have guest who you have invited for Shabbos lunch. Lunch is called for noon. At noon they are have not yet arrived. How long do you wait before starting without them (you do not know where they live or where they are coming from)? How long if you have made kiddish already? and How long if you have not made kiddish already?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  27. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    we've had this many times. After an hour or so we end up making kiddush. My father doesn't like to eat mezonos in between, so if the guest don't arrive right after kiddush then we wash and wait (another half hr to 45 min). After that I think they'd be upset/ embarrassed if you actually waited

    Posted 6 years ago #

  28. oomis
    Best Bubby EVER

    "Tough Choice of the Day

    You have guest who you have invited for Shabbos lunch. Lunch is called for noon. At noon they are have not yet arrived. How long do you wait before starting without them (you do not know where they live or where they are coming from)? How long if you have made kiddish already? and How long if you have not made kiddish already? "

    Hoo boy! That has happened to me so many times, that we have revised our thinking on the subject. We used to totally wait until the guest(s) showed up, though we started to make kiddush, as my husband has a sugar problem and really cannot wait longer to eat something. I will now wait 15 minutes, then start without them, and save wine and two challah rolls for them to make kiddush and hamotzee. Unless I know for sure they attend a minyan that lets out a little later than ours (and this is often the case), I expect most people to be on time. otherwise l'chatchilah I will make lunch a half hour later than usual, in order to accommodate them. If someone is really late, they are being rude (unless of course there is a legitimate reason, in which case we are understanding). My daughter had guests show up at 10 PM on Friday night (yes, they waited for them,a nd there was another guest there). It turned out the couple's baby had had an allergic reaction to something at home, and they gave her benadryl and wanted to make sure she was ok.

    Posted 6 years ago #

  29. anonymisss
    Member

    we've had this many times. After an hour or so we end up making kiddush. My father doesn't like to eat mezonos in between, so if the guest don't arrive right after kiddush then we wash and wait (another half hr to 45 min). After that I think they'd be upset/ embarrassed if you actually waited

    areivim, are you by any odd chance my bro???? I could've written the EXACT same thing, down to the fact that my father doesn't like to eat mezonos in between!!!!

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  30. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    you really never know.... what's for dinner? ;)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  31. anonymisss
    Member

    lol!

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  32. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    seriously, what's for dinner- I'm starving.
    tell me, what's your bro like? I now need to mesh 3 persona's together (moish's red bearded guy, Jax's new friend and your bro)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  33. Jax
    Member

    areivim: how about Kosher Delight? a General Chow chicken! on me!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  34. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    how generous Jax- is the fund sponsoring? Please have it delivered to... uh... this isn't gonna work Jax, I'm sorry, rules are rules
    btw- hi

    Posted 6 years ago #

  35. Jax
    Member

    areivim: i'll just send it to your IP!
    BTW HI! & now bye, updates are done!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  36. an open book
    Member

    areivim: it's all right, jax can just send it to his new friend, & if he really is as much like you as he says, i'm sure he won't mind a free meal even if it's not you!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  37. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    this has evolved into the tough choice of the day and I'm not satisfied with the solutions. I want food!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  38. an open book
    Member

    ...so what are the choices?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  39. anonymisss
    Member

    areivim, no red beard, haha!!

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  40. anonymisss
    Member

    and he's nice, real nice;)

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  41. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    so now my choice is down to either blond or brown and I don't have a choice of being nice ;(

    Posted 6 years ago #

  42. moish01
    Member

    NOOOOO!

    Posted 6 years ago #

  43. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    wadya havin canaries about moish. Did you watch ames' chessed as it unfolded?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  44. moish01
    Member

    no that you're not red. come on- i was convinced

    Posted 6 years ago #

  45. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    get outta here.... (don't!)
    I still technically have the option of being a redhead, it's just a matter of who overrules whom- anonymisss or moish?
    Being that you were the first to decide who I am, the options remain open
    (what a diplomat ;))

    Posted 6 years ago #

  46. anonymisss
    Member

    NOT RED!

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

  47. moish01
    Member

    i think anonymisss would be forced to say that i'm higher on the pecking order (love that idiom- i just saw it someplace!)

    it is it is it is it is it is

    Posted 6 years ago #

  48. aussieboy
    Member

    moish: Whats the pecking order?

    Posted 6 years ago #

  49. areivimzehlazeh
    Member

    rodef shalom
    I'll be half and half
    but- what color will be the other half?
    ok- we need Jax here as well to find out about this friend
    I may have to split 3 way...

    ~ Areivim the tri-colored species ;)

    Posted 6 years ago #

  50. anonymisss
    Member

    well, not if he's my bro.

    ~a~

    Posted 6 years ago #

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