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  • #617573
    👑RebYidd23
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    All the name tells us is that it’s not animal or mineral oil! Why not just call it what it is?

    #1147806
    CTLAWYER
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    As the message says on the Crisco Vegetable Oil description page. Ingredients may change.

    Mainline companies may print hundreds of thousands of labels at one time. Changes in the price/availability of a particular oil may cause the substitution of another. No need to discard all the labels.

    Most ‘Vegetable Oil’ sold under that name in the USA is soybean, but Canola is gaining ground. Pesach Time we see Wesson Cottonseed Oil in the Veg-oil section of the supermarket…yukkkk

    #1147807
    takahmamash
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    Pesach Time we see Wesson Cottonseed Oil in the Veg-oil section of the supermarket…yukkkk

    So use canola oil.

    #1147808
    The Queen
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    “So use canola oil.”

    Our Rav Paskened that canola oil is kitnios.

    Use Walnut oil.

    #1147809
    golfer
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    Like the queen said, most people who don’t eat kitniyos, don’t use canola oil on Pesach.

    You have a lot of choices. They all offer different Halachic, nutritional, and cooking challenges. Walnut oil (as mentioned), cottonseed oil (ditto), olive oil, safflower oil, avocado oil, grapeseed oil. Check out your local grocery; you’ll be surprised what you can find in the Pesach aisle. If you don’t live too far OOT, that is.

    #1147810
    TheGoq
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    “If you don’t live too far OOT, that is.”

    Golfer are you channeling your inner Joseph?

    #1147811
    CTLAWYER
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    Queen……….

    I don’t care for the taste of walnut oil. Our Rav also says Canola is Kitnios.

    I grew up with Peanut oil or schmaltz.

    I still use schmaltz for many things, olive for non-cooked foods (salads, etc.) and succumb to cottonseed for most frying.

    It’s only 8 days, we manage to not ruin our collective health because of Pesach.

    #1147812
    TheGoq
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    When buying nut oils buy in small quantities they spoil fast.

    #1147813
    takahmamash
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    Like the queen said, most people who don’t eat kitniyos, don’t use canola oil on Pesach.

    Not in Israel.

    #1147814
    golfer
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    Interesting, takahm.

    Nobody picked up on CTL’s mention of peanut oil. Notice he says he still uses schmaltz. But he (presumably) no longer uses peanut oil. AFAIK no longer available with Hashgacha for Pesach. Although a while back that was what many people in US used on Pesach. Interesting discussion here for the taking on differing piskei Halacha years ago regarding peanuts and peanut oil (kitniyos? not?).

    Guess everyone is busy vaccuming or shopping or heavily involved in (IT’S BACK!) the Gef fish thread…

    #1147815
    old man
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    I verify takahmamash’s post. Most ashkenazic non-kitniyot eaters use Canola oil.

    #1147816
    Meno
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    What’s a canola?

    #1147817
    Avram in MD
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    Canola is a contraction of the words “Canada oil” (or “Canada oil low acid”), and comes from a specially bred variety of rapeseed that has low erucic acid. The plant is somewhat related to turnips.

    #1147818
    takahmamash
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    We grew up eating peanuts on Pesach, and my mom z”l cooked with peanut oil. Somehow, some way, peanuts magically became kitniyot. (My family still eats peanuts on Pesach, BTW.)

    #1147819
    charliehall
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    “peanuts magically became kitniyot”

    And people complain about Open Orthodox changing “mesorah”?

    #1147820
    CTLAWYER
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    Golfer…………

    Peanut oil for Pesach seemed to disappear from the US kosher grocers’ shelves in the early 1970s. The same time as the major shift to Glatt meat from ‘regular’ kosher meat.

    #1147821
    nishtdayngesheft
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    It makes sense that Charlie Hall would equate claims by the OO “Rabbits” that there was more than one author to the Torah to those who are extra machmir on Kitniyot.

    It is not just Mesorah that is the problem with the OO, it is the outright kefira, abandonment of basic halacha, the hate they display for those who do keep mesorah and the frequent cases of mesirah. And so on and so forth.

    #1147822
    golfer
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    Takahm, charlieh, CTL, there is nothing magical nor (chas v’shalom) was there anything arbitrary about the change in status of peanut oil on Pesach.

    I’m not going to elaborate as I am no way learned enough to offer you an appropriate dissection of the relevant responsa from the Rishonim to very late Achronim to the growth of Yiddishkeit in the Americas. But I’m sure if you do your own research you’ll find it’s not at all as simple as it seems.

    #1147823
    Nechomah
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    AFAIK, Ashkenazi chareidim in EY do not eat canola or cottonseed (most popular in US) due to kitniyos. We rely on walnut oil, expensive as it is. Palm oil is a very unhealthy alternative.

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