What are your opinions on Rav Avigdor Miller’s answer about acting good?

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    馃憫RebYidd23
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    His answer says that it’s better to “deceive” people by behaving like a gentlemen rather than showing your true character by behaving in an ungentlemanly manner.

    #1479997
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    This thread is copyright infringement and is directly comparable to kidnapping, halachically speaking.

    #1480005
    馃憫RebYidd23
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    Prove it.

    #1480010
    Joseph
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    Liked acting politely to someone who you feel like cursing out?

    #1480017
    馃憫RebYidd23
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    Yes, and being very nice to your wife. But you have to keep the ruse going for a lifetime.

    #1480020
    Joseph
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    That sounds like a wonderful idea!

    Come to think of it, I’ll bet if someone tried that approach that eventually he’ll actually come to like the person he didn’t like but always acted friendly to.

    #1480065
    GAON
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    Rebyid,
    You mean to ask what’s your opinion on having an opinion on Rav Miller’s ZTL opinions… 馃檪

    #1480081
    馃憫RebYidd23
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    No, GAON, that’s your question.

    #1480904
    Little Froggie
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    RY.

    Exactly. That’s what Seforim write. 讛专讙诇 谞注砖讛 讟讘注.

    I’m still trying his trick…

    #1488092
    馃憫RebYidd23
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    Should I have exclusive rights to the way I paraphrased his words?

    #1488143
    gavriel613
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    讜诇讗 讬讻诇讜 讚讘专讜 诇砖诇讜诐. 诪转讜讱 讙谞讜转诐 诇诪讚谞讜 砖讘讞诐, 砖诇讗 讚讘专讜 讗讞转 讘驻讛 讜讗讞转 讘诇讘
    专砖”讬 讜讬砖讘 诇讝 讚

    This would seem to contradict the way R Avigdor Miller is quoted, Rashi says once they hated Yosef which was admittedly a Gnus, it was then a Shvach that they at least didn’t act falsely.

    Rashi’s mekor is a medrash there (BR 84:9) which contrasts the Shvotim to Avsholom who was capable of acting differently to how he really felt (Maharzav). The Matnos Kehuna calls this geneivas daas; the Yefei Toar calls it chanufa.

    Do you have a source/further information about this quote

    #1488147
    gavriel613
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    #1489302
    馃憫RebYidd23
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    By the way, Sora S, could you explain what you meant by “constantly faking”?

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