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  • #617198
    aquestioningjew
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    Hi

    A question for the men out there( I’m aware some women learn as well, but I feel it is sufficiently normative to address this to men)

    What do you learn when you learn Torah? I’m aware there are many Shittos (and cute stories about learning Mussar) about how we should spend our learning time but I’m interested in peoples take on this.

    I would have guessed that I spend half my time learning Gemoro (Rashi and Tosfos) and half on other things (mainly parsha and machshovo) but I’ve just added it all up and apparently I spend 2/3 of my time on the latter! Quite surprised actually.

    Anyway, what about you?

    #1139102
    theprof1
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    I learn an hour Daf Yomi before shachris. After breakfast I learn the parsha in a sefer called Chok L’Yisroel. This has the parsha by each day. Then there are portions to learn from the haftorah, from Kesuvim, mishna, gemorah, zohar, rambam, mussar. That’s about an hour or so. Later I learn a chasidish sefer. And then again gemorah. Altogether about 4 hours a day.

    #1139103
    Neville ChaimBerlin
    Participant

    Kol hakavod, theprof1. May I ask what Chasidish sefer?

    I personally put emphasis on practical halachah and Gemorra. The effort I put into studying parsha could certainly use some work. I also learn a very small amount (~1 or 2 minutes) of Chasidus before bed.

    #1139104
    147
    Participant

    If you don’t know what to learn, come up to the YU book-sale:- There simply won’t be any shortage of good ideas for what to procure and learn.

    #1139105
    yourfriend
    Participant

    i learn 8 hours a day halacha and around 1 hour gemara and hour an hour mussar, around friday shabbos i do some chumash and anything else that i want. i do not learn chassidus

    #1139106
    aquestioningjew
    Participant

    yourfriend – 8 hours a day halocho? What do you mean? Do you mean the Sugya through from Shas to Poskim?

    #1139107
    dovrosenbaum
    Participant

    I’m maavir sedrah, and in addition to Rashi, learn Ramban or another mefaresh. I also started Daf Yomi with Gittin this time around, and try to learn Gemara and Rashi daily. I also learn Mishna Berura/Kitzur, and Hilchos Shabbos.

    #1139108
    homer
    Member

    MUSAR

    #1139109
    Sam2
    Participant

    When I have time to learn, I generally work on Gemaras with Rashi and Tosfos.

    #1139110
    yourfriend
    Participant

    a questioning jew- yes. all the way through. gemara rishonim achronim poskim until lamaaseh. maybe that is why i spend 8 hours on it?

    #1139111
    aquestioningjew
    Participant

    Your Friend – I’m sure it is. Wow, you’re fortunate to learn so much.

    Homer – shush… don’t shout it so loudly… you know the Novardok joke….

    #1139112
    yourfriend
    Participant

    thank you. if you don’t mind, i would like to add that in my humble opinion, each person on their level, should try to learn some time, without any distractions, family, phones, etc.. so he can be 100% there. it maybe not within everyone”s reach, but for they who can, it is really worth it.

    #1139113

    the gemara in kidushin says that a person should spend a 1/3 of his time (machlokes rashi and tosfos if this means each day or each week should be split into 3) for mikra, a 1/3 mishna and a 1/3 halacha.

    #1139114

    I thought it’s supposed to be 1/3 coffeeroom 1/3 news and 1/3 videos

    #1139115
    yourfriend
    Participant

    dear thebestofthebest.

    i think you would do well to see the shulchan aruch in y.d. 246.4. where we see when the gemara that speaks about the thirds, apply and when not, and esspecially the rama that brings the opinion that the gemara includes all the categories, and see the shach also about the priorites in what to learn

    #1139116
    pcoz
    Member

    Torah.

    #1139117
    mik5
    Participant

    I learn halacha (esp. hilchos Shabbos, but also other areas of practical halacha). I also learn Tanya on a daily basis.

    #1139118
    Bubba21
    Participant

    i personally do torah and madda. about 6,5 hours of torah a day and about 3 hours of madda a day

    #1139119
    YUmachur
    Member

    Really Madda is Torah because your learning about H'”kbh many creations and the complexity of His creations with that said. I learn 8 hours of torah a day and 7 hours of maada, which equals 15 hours of torah a day.

    #1139120
    skripka
    Participant

    men never learn 🙂

    #1139121

    YUmachur,

    If /when one wishes to, they’re abl to rationalize anything

    #1139122

    YUmachur,bubba21,

    Wisdom is

    wonderful

    As long it is valued as a “handmaiden”

    Always you ought to ask yourself -honestly-

    What is your real goals?

    #1139123
    aquestioningjew
    Participant

    It is time for truth – while I come from the same beis hamedrash as you do, you must realise others come from a different viewpoint – no?

    #1139124
    Excellence
    Participant

    Chumash

    Neviim

    Kesuvim

    Aggadah

    Midrash

    Gemara

    Mishna

    Halacha

    Mussar

    Chofetz Chaim

    Pnimius Torah

    #1139125
    The Queen
    Participant

    Excellence, you left out chassidus.

    #1139126
    Excellence
    Participant

    Thank for reminding me. I have an eng translation of the Alter Rebbe’s Torah Or, Noam Elemelech, and some discourses of the Rimanov Rebbe I read from time to time.

    I’m trying to complete the Tanya for the first time. Almost done…

    Oh! I am a big fan of the Shem MiShmuel – original chiddushei Torah. Cutting edge.

    And I am delving into the Ben Ish Chai – halacha and derasha. His gematria style alone is brilliant.

    #1139127
    The Queen
    Participant

    Hope you don’t mind me saying, the Ben ish chai was a Sefardi Chacham from Iraq so his Torah probably wouldn’t be called chassidus.

    #1139128
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Nistar. I can’t tell you.

    #1139129
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    No, popa, learning daf yomi two months behind doesn’t qualify as nistar.

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