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    mw13
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    Who wants to guess what Trump will do as President?

    Will he round up and expel all the illegal immigrants?

    Will he charge Mexico for building a wall, even if that causes a trade war?

    Will he be “neutral” in between the Israelis and Palestinians?

    Will he demand that NATO members pick between pay US defense costs or not be defended?

    Will he cozy up to Putin?

    Will he retreat from the world?

    Will he ban people from entering the country based on their religion?

    Will he put tariffs on everything?

    Will he start a trade war with China?

    #1213327
    Meno
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    The answer to most of those questions is simple:

    No. He’s only the President, not the King.

    #1213328
    akuperma
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    He will probably expel any illegal aliens with a criminal background. He might start a trade war (though that requires the Congress) – public opinion in many countries is increasingly skeptical of free trade. He will encourage extreme vetting of anyone with ties to Islamic State. He is more likely to try to buy the world rather than withdraw from it (comes naturally to him). He’ll let Israel do whatever it wants, and will only fight overseas if it is in America’s direct interests and supported by allies. — He will appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court and roll back much of the last 40 years of liberal “creep”, and he’ll repeal much of the environmental legislation and especially administrative regulations, and radically change most anything Obama did the last eight years.

    #1213329
    SpiderJerusalem
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    Will he round up and expel all the illegal immigrants?

    Not all of them but most of them.

    Will he charge Mexico for building a wall, even if that causes a trade war?

    Yes, because it won’t cause a trade war. If it does, how could Mexico expect to win? We don’t get anything from them.

    Will he be "neutral" in between the Israelis and Palestinians?

    Of course not, he’s going to be so pro-Israel your head will spin. He’s going to earn a nickname like “the Great” or something.

    Will he demand that NATO members pick between pay US defense costs or not be defended?

    Yes. He might leave NATO altogether. The cold war is over.

    Will he cozy up to Putin?

    If by cozy you mean not have nuclear war with then yes.

    Will he retreat from the world?

    The world will retreat from Trump.

    Will he ban people from entering the country based on their religion?

    If that religion is Islam, yes.

    Will he put tariffs on everything?

    Possibly

    Will he start a trade war with China?

    No. New trade deals with China is not a war.

    We’re going to make America great again.

    #1213330
    Sam2
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    If his most vocal supporters have their way, he’ll round up all the Blacks and Jews and put us on reservations.

    #1213331
    👑RebYidd23
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    He will outsource the presidency and drink tea.

    #1213333
    mw13
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    I have to say, the picks that Trump has been making recently for Cabinet posts all seem almost… normal. With the notable exception of Steve Bannon, these are the type of picks we would expect from any normal, conservative Republican.

    Perhaps Trump will run a normal (semi-)Republican administration after all…

    #1213334
    Joseph
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    You mean that the doomsday scenarios aren’t real and Trump isn’t planning to send the Jews to Concentration Camps?!?!

    #1213335
    akuperma
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    He seems to be a lot like Nelson Rockefeller but with a sense of humor based on “Archie Bunker”. He is showing himself to be a brilliant politician in getting the rest of the Republican party (including the “Country club elite”, the Tea Party, the Neo-cons and the Religious Right) which opposed him in the primaries and haven’t nominated a big government Republican since the 1970s, to support him. Many of the centrist Democrats will come to like him, as they did Nelson Rockefeller. The extreme left Democrats will whine but will increasingly be perceived as the jerks they are.

    #1213336
    Lightbrite
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    Just as orange as Tropicana

    #1213337
    huju
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    I’m going to post something here in a year. Everybody please wait for it.

    #1213338
    Lightbrite
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    Promise? Or by then you may have already annulled your vows during Kol Nidre

    #1213339

    Kol Nidrei cannot annul promises made to another person.

    #1213340
    Joseph
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    huju, it’ll take Trump longer than a year to round you up. I’d suggest waiting until his eighth year in office to share your experience. Except that you might be behind barbed wires by then.

    #1213341
    mw13
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    I may have spoken too soon… now Trump is busy tweeting about the 35% tariffs that he plans to punish companies that leave the US with. Government interference in economics tend not to end well (as Reagan famously said: “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”), particularly when it’s based mostly on emotions.

    So much for the free-market capitalism that Republicans have always believed in…

    #1213342
    yehudayona
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    Actually, the Republican belief in free-market capitalism is rather recent. Republicans used to be very pro-tariff. Think Smoot-Hawley.

    #1213343
    Lightbrite
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    “Kol Nidrei cannot annul promises made to another person.”

    Comlink-X!!!! Omgosh you’re right!!!! I made a promise to someone that I didn’t keep. Life circumstances changed and I didn’t apologize. Rahh!!! Thank you !

    #1213344
    huju
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    So, Joseph, do you want Trump to round me up? (I’m not an illegal immirgrant, and, as far as I know, my ancestors came here legally.) On what basis should I be rounded up? Jewish? Liberal? Democrat? Pedant? Too grammatically correct? Please explain.

    And just for the record, much as I am doubtful about Trump, I don’t think he will put me or other descendants of legal immigrants behind barbed wire. Maybe you are more skeptical of him than I am.

    #1213345
    Joseph
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    I’d rather round you up myself. Because you’re Jewish. And we need a tzeinter for our minyan.

    #1213346
    mw13
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    Looks like we may have our first concrete answer to one of the questions in the OP:

    Will he cozy up to Putin?</em<?em>

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/who-should-be-secretary-of-state#post-637759

    #1213347
    mw13
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    I have to say, the picks that Trump has been making recently for Cabinet posts all seem almost… normal. With the notable exception of Steve Bannon, these are the type of picks we would expect from any normal, conservative Republican.

    Perhaps Trump will run a normal (semi-)Republican administration after all…

    From S.E. Cupp of the New York Daily News:

    Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants and likely the next labor secretary, has been openly critical of government intervention in corporate decision-making, from mandating a higher minimum wage to forcing more overtime pay and sick-leave policies.

    #1213348
    Yserbius123
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    Will he be “neutral” in between the Israelis and Palestinians?

    Yes. A huge part of his campaign has been about isolationism. He will state his vocal support of Israel, but work very hard to stop the aid and to not get involved in any peace treaties or what have you.

    #1213349
    Joseph
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    In 30 years Americans will be speaking with nostalgia of the historic Trump era and the greatness of his presidency.

    #1213350
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    Why in the world do you like Trump so much? From what I understand, the only reason why anyone said to vote for him was because he’s better than Clinton and not because they thought he was so great.

    #1213351
    Joseph
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    I opposed Trump in the primaries. Out of 17 Republican candidates he was my 17th choice to win. In the general election I voted for him as the lesser of the two evils. I thought he had almost no chance of winning against Clinton. In fact I thought he had very little chance of winning the primary.

    But since winning he’s impressed me very much with his personnel choices for his cabinet, across the board. More real conservatives than even Ronald Reagan I think. So I now have much bigger hopes and anticipation for his presidency.

    By the way, both he and his father have had a stellar reputation regarding their friendliness with Jews and Jewish causes long before both his candidacy for president and before his daughter’s marriage.

    #1213352
    mw13
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    I opposed Trump in the primaries. Out of 17 Republican candidates he was my 17th choice to win.

    Wow, that’s even more anti-Trump than me – I ranked him 15th, over Rand Paul and Ben Carson.

    Listen, I do think he’s got a lot of solid conservatives in his cabinet – which I will admit came as a pleasant surprise. But he’s also got people who are simply unqualified for things like Senior Adviser, Sec of State, HUD, and oh of course Commander-in-Cheif. He also seems to be taking positions that are against the Conservative ideals in regards to the national debt, social security, same-gender marriage, and America’s position in the world (if you thought Obama’s “lead from behind” retreat from the world was bad, how can you like Trump’s “America First” isolationism?)

    So we’ll just have to wait and see….

    #1213353
    Joseph
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    Well, close to 17. Carson was a clown.

    #1213354
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
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    I would just be wary of trusting any political leader too much. “lev melachim b’yad Hashem”. We should daven to Hashem that he should be a good leader, but any trust we have should be towards Hashem helping us and not directed towards Trump personally.

    I guess I was also surprised because some of the issues you had with Clinton apply to Trump as well. Even if you want to claim that Clinton is worse (which I’m not interested in getting into), you definitely can’t claim that Trump is so great.

    I guess I just feel that from the little I know about him, he doesn’t sound like someone whom Torah Jews should be praising too much. Of course, we hope that Hashem will make things work out well, but again that should be because we trust Hashem, and not because we think Trump is so great.

    #1213355
    mw13
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    #1213356
    Lightbrite
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    Please Hashem, please keep our fruits and vegetables and foods still rolling in from South America. We need South America. We’re lucky to have South American farmers feed us.

    The end.

    #1213357
    seedys
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    #1213359
    Health
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    Do you liberals even know the purpose of armed troops?

    Well I’ll tell you, – because you sound like you had very little education, – it’s to protect us.

    If we didn’t have our armed forces, our enemies would come here to destroy us!

    So you want the US government to just take taxpayers money and have armed forces, but they don’t have to do their job?!?

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