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Baruch Hashem Klal Yisroel has a good quantity of gedolei rabbonim and poskim.
Avi K again. Rav Elyashiv was that until recently. What secular knowledge did he have? I don’t know the answer, but everyone will agree that he was the ultimate address for every shaaloh.
Rav Elyashiv was both the godol hador and the posek hador.
Rav Belsky ZT”l told many of us that you can only make a Bracha ???? ?????? ????? on Rav Chaim and Rav Steinman today. I asked him regarding ??? ???? and after listing many names to him, the only one he considered was Reb Dovid. I think that would certainly be an indication of being the ‘Gadol of America’.
hashalem613, I assume you mean ???? ?????? ??????. The mistaken version posted above means something entirely different, and possibly blasphemous.
hashalem613, Now that we’ve got that out the way, I think that may be the answer to the OP. If Rav Belsky said it, and he himself was definitely among the Poskei Hador in America, that’s good enough for me.
Just for those of us living across the pond, does Reb Dovid Feinstein have an official position?
Reb Dovid is Rosh Yeshiva at Mesivta Tiferes Yerushalayim in Manhattan, just as Reb Moshe was.
The Gadol Hador Of America is Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet Shlit’a as per Rav Chaim Kanievsky
Joseph,
Does he also have published teshuvos?
geeps,
Why do us Europeans never hear about the American Torah world? Who is Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet?
Reb Dovid’s published numerous seforim though I don’t know if there’s sh”ut printed from him.
He’s also a member of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah.
I cant say I am an expert in every Rav in the US, but I have heard of most of them
I never heard of Hagaon Harav Mordechai Aderet. I had to google him and he is still unfamiliar
I did google Harav Mordechai Aderet. He seems quite a kano’i l’shem shomayim. Can someone let us know, where he learned, who his Rabe’im are, etc?
He learned in Kfar Chassidim by Reb Elya Lopian And then went to Ponovitch where he got very close with Reb Shach and Rav shmuel Rozovtzky who gave him semicha. here is a video of reb chaim praising him very highly
this is a YWN article on reb chaim naming rabbi aderet head of his yeshiva and the video is there
Thank you. I thought you said he lives in America?
Rav Chaim praising him does not make him the Gadol HaDor
Jared Kushner?
I am not a gadol (or Modern Orthodox).
Randomex – neither am I, but what was that comment in response to?
Randomex, Rav Herschel Schachter, Rav Gedalia Schwartz, Rav Mordechai Willig.
🙂
oh, :).
btw, the Rabbanim mentioned are not MO either (at least some of them aren’t to the best of my knowledge). They are Rabbanim (perhaps Gedolim) for the Modern Orthodox.
Which of those three isn’t personally MO?
Geordie613 he is the Mora Daasra of Khal Beit Eliyahu of Great Neck. his shiurim can be found on Torah Anytime. very inspiring!!!!
Lilmod, what is the difference?
Geeps, Right, thank you. Ive gone back to read it again closer. So he’s established a yeshiva in EY and he lives in the US. That’s what was confusing me.
He might very well be a talmid Chachim and a great Tzadik, but he is not even the gadol Hador for even Great Neck , NY , let alone the US(Great Neck, NY is considered part of of the Queens, NY Kehila (Vaad of Queens)) All the Rabbanim in Great Neck are Part of the Vaad of Queens. And he is definatly not the Morah D’Asrah of the Queens Kehilla
A major part of being a gadol Hador
(although hardly the Definition of )
is being a Manhig
Reb Dovid prefers to refrain from that role.
When they asked him to join the Moetzes ,he at first declined. Eventually he agreed , but largely from a distance.
Yichusdik,
When they were being Maspid Rabbeinu Yitzchak Elchanan at his Levaya, They lamented him as the Rashkaba”g
When asked [Translated] How come they wouldn’t call him gadol hador?
The response was “Because Reb Yehoshua Leib is alive [in Yerushalayim]”!
All manhigei hador are gedolim. But you can have a “godol” who is not a manhig hador. The greatest gedolim are the manhigei hador.
Rashkaba”g
Rabban Shel Kol Bnei HaGolah
Who is the Godol Hador?
Popa Bar Abba of course!!!The Gemara says that Papa Bar Abba was a very Large person!
Geordie, Rav Eliashiv consulted with leaders in the secular world. However, not all groups addressed their questions to him. Chariedi Sepharadim, for example, asked Rav Ovadia.
Joseph, Rav Yaakov Ariel and Rav Dov Lior are two. Rav Eliezer Melamed is also up there.
ZD, \i think that the residents of Great Neck will be very surprised to discover that they live in Queens. Is there no Vaad of Nassau County?
There is no Vaad of Nassau County
Even though Greek Neck is in Nassau County, they are part of the Vaad of Queens. The Vaad of Queens is not exclusively in Queens. West Hempstead is also partially part of the Vaad of Queens
ZD: Is it that the Great Neck community is part of the Vaad of Queens or that the kosher establishments chose the Vaad of Queens as their hechsher?
If you look at the Vaad’s website they don’t list Great Neck as part of their “community”.
The Hashghcahs in Great Neck are under the Vaad of Queens and the Rabbanin there are members of the Vaad of Queens. I think one or 2 opted out (Due to trying to be more liberal than the Vaad of Queens allowed)
Great Neck is right next to Queens, and many of the schools take student from both the Queens community and Great Neck, so it makes sense they are joined even if they are technically in different counties
And the local Costco bakery is under the chaf k, does this make them the gadol hador of the neighborhood or all Costco shoppers. What does kashrus certification have to do with being a manhig? Heck, every cab driver is a manhig.
The Vaad of Queens is not just Hashghcha, Its all encompasing even doing conversions, that even Rav Belsky would tell people to go to , if they wanted to convert
And yet, when my Uncle in queens has a shayla, he calls his Rav; not the vaad. The vaad is not the manhig on my queens.
They dont poskin individual Halachas, but rather community Halachas. Your local rav polskins individual issues.
However if a Rav poskins something not in line with the community like womens prayer groups, then they will intervene
If the Vaad is out of line, the Moetzes will intervene.
I don’t think there’s any rabbi today that has such a status. There are famous rabonim and roshei yeshiva, but there’s no one alive today in America who has the status of a Rav Moshe Feinstein e.g.
Such a simple question with an obvious answer.
There most certainly are Gedolei HaDor today in America.
Gedolei hador isn’t the same thing as “the gadol.” I never went to BMG or Philly e.g. and I wouldn’t consider the Rosh Yeshiva to be my gadol.
The Moetzess has little control over the Vaad of Queens
If anyone actually wants to know , it’s rabbi Kalish from Waterbury , although he’s a little young he definitely is the GH
Bachur 3, learn were you taught how to use commas and periods?
In real terms, the only “gadol” that matters is your local rav o posek who guides you in your everday life and perhaps any more “senior” rav who your on rav relies upon from time to time for especially difficult matters. Beyond that, the guidance we have under daas torah is “aseh l’cha RAV” not “aseh l’cha Gadol”.
Zs dad: are you sure that all of the rabbis in great neck are part of the vaad of queens? the website for the vaad appears to list all its member shuls and lists none in great neck (although i did find something that showed that the rabbi of young israel in great neck was once a president of the vaad). aren’t most jewish institutions in great neck persian?
the vaad website also only lists one bukharian shul in queens. is there only one bukharian shul in queens? are there no other sefaradic shuls in queens? i thought that queens had a very large bukharian jewish community.
considering the fact that queens has such a large bukharian community and that great neck’s persian community far out numbers the non-persian community i am not sure why the vaad of queens is at all relevant to this discussion.
Can we say there is a Posek Hador. Or the Posek that the Rabbonim refer the questions that are too hard for them?
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