Why are we calling people Palestinians?

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    Sinanjew
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    Seriously. This is not a racist or bigoted rant. Why are we calling “Palestinians Arabs” by that name. They should be called “Ex-Jordanians Arabs”. After all, they were called “Jordanians” in 1948.

    By calling the Ex-Jordanians Arabs “Palestinians Arabs” we are validating, to some degree, their claim that there was a Palestine state.

    #1169820
    👑RebYidd23
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    They call themselves Palestinians. If we don’t call them that, they’ll pretend we’re talking to someone else.

    #1169821
    ☕️coffee addict
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    The country was called Palestine before Israel was formed, the Jordanians never accepted them

    #1169822
    Health
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    Yidd23 -“They call themselves Palestinians”

    Who cares what they call themselves? The only real Palestinians are the Jews!

    The world, including Israel, should stop with their lies!

    #1169823
    akuperma
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    By definition they were never “Jordanians” which is sort for “Transjordanian” (on the other side the Jordan). While many Jordanians are Palestinians, the reverse isn’t true. Almost noone in the West Bank or Gaza had roots in TransJordan.

    100 years ago they were referred to as “Leventine” and the group included those whom we now call Lebanese and Syrians – all of which were one group. However the British and French conquered the area, and created boundaries and for the last century they have all had different histories, which is why a Lebanese Arab and a Syrian Arab and a (Trans)Jordanian Arab and a Palestinian Arab are now different groups – even if they all sound the same.

    One asks why people in New York are called New Yorkers when in fact most of them are something else (Europeans, Asians, Puerto Ricans). Believe it or not, even period of less than century creates new groups and identities.

    #1169824
    Sinanjew
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    That might be true. But if everyone started calling them what they really are. You KNOW what I mean… Then perhaps people might start to take notice.

    #1169826
    ubiquitin
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    SinanJew

    Your history isnt quite right. They here never called “Jordanians.” prior to 1948 people who lived in the region known as Palestine were Patestinians there were Palestinian Jews, and Palestinian Arabs. (For example, The “Palestine Post was a Jewish paper today known as the Jerusalem Post”)

    Once the State was created the Jews became Israelis, Arabs who lived in ISrael became “Israeli arabs” and Arabs who lived in the non-Israel part of Palestine remained known as Palestinians.

    Now none of this changes the fact that Palestinians didnt have a separate national identity from other Arabs of what was once Trans-Jordan. As Golda Meir said in 69′

    “There were no such thing as Palestinians. When was there an independent Palestinian people with a Palestinian state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was a Palestinian people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”

    However that ship has sailed

    #1169827
    Sinanjew
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    @Coffee. Actually they were called Jordanians before the State of Israel was created. Once they were told to leave by the Jordanian leaders (with the promise that they would be coming right back after Israel was destroyed) they were also told to call themselves Palestinians.

    #1169828
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Sinanjew

    Sorry that’s not true,

    Arabs lived in Palestine in the 1920s when the British ruled it

    Learn history

    #1169829
    lesschumras
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    It’s sad how misinformed we can be . Transjordan didn’t exist until 1921. It was a consolation prize by the British when the Hashemites lozt to the Saudis for control of the Arabian peninsula. It didn’t become Jordan until 1949 when it took control of the west bank.

    #1169830
    charliehall
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    “Transjordan didn’t exist until 1921. It was a consolation prize by the British when the Hashemites lozt to the Saudis for control of the Arabian peninsula”

    Wrong. The Hashemites did conquer what would become Trans-Jordan in 1921 but the Saudis did not expel them from the Arabian Peninsula until 1925.

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