Why does Schmaltz Herring cost $22 a pound? (excluding the onions & oil)

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    Haimy
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    Herring is one of the cheapest fish commercially available. Even our poor grandparents in Poland could afford a few pieces of herring.
    A 7.5 oz of herring retails for about $5.49 in the heimisher groceries. The majority of the contents are soybean oil & onions with no more than 3-4 oz. of fish. That comes to about $22-$28 per pound of herring, can you explain how herring became a luxury?

    #1520106

    ubiquitin
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    Sure

    Because people are willing to pay for it.

    #1520156

    Joseph
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    Start a new herring brand and undersell everyone else.

    #1520232

    Gadolhadorah
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    Most herring is cheap but the species “Herringus Schmaltzus” is on the endangered species list and there are annual catch quotas limiting supplies and increasing prices. There are some commercial efforts at raising the rare schmaltz herrings at fish farms but the results so fare have been mixed and the taam of the farm-raised fish lacks the natural onion taste of the wild-caught variety.

    #1520260

    Mammele
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    I’d venture a guess that we are mostly paying for the time and space – for the fish to marinade – labor, and government regulations involved. I’d assume the cost of the fish plays a role as well. There is no fish named herring (or herringus) but thanks for the laugh GH…

    Additionally, the companies now produce so many varieties, and creative/artisinal products cost more. If you opt for the plain herring fillets (I forgot the name of the brand, but I saw something similar made by Rockland on Rockland Kosher’s website) you get a lot more fish for your molney. To make it taste good you have to cut it up and finish it off with the flavors/recipe you desire.

    #1520264

    Uncle Ben
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    Dorah; You should consider writing for the National Onion.

    #1520268

    Takes2-2tango
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    For the same reason kosher cream cheese cost almost 5 dollars not on sale for 8 oz.
    Or flanken on bone cost 16 dolllars not on sale. Flanken is known to be the lowest grade meat but peple buy it primarily for chulent because of the fat content and bones. Go figure

    #1520283

    DaasYochid ☕
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    GH, nice.

    The scientific name for the Atlantic herring is actually Clupea harengus.

    #1520284

    DaasYochid ☕
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    For the same reason kosher cream cheese cost almost 5 dollars not on sale for 8 oz.

    I’ve been paying about $2.

    #1520323

    iacisrmma
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    For the same reason, a mixture of flour and water before pesach costs $15 – $50 / LB. The cost of the labor involved in cutting the fish and the onions, the cost of oil, making the various “sauces”, packaging and the space to age the fish. Regular old fashioned pickled herring costs about $7 – $8 for a 26 oz jar.

    DY: Where can you find CY cream cheese for $2 per 8 oz container?

    #1520343

    DaasYochid ☕
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    Norman’s is $2 wherever it’s sold. Hatov is on sale now for $2.29 in NPGS, and others are $2.49 or $2.59. You can even get J&J on sale now for $2.99 in KRM.

    #1520349

    👑RebYidd23
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    There are fish that are called herrings.

    #1520359

    Gadolhadorah
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    Norman’s, HaTov, Vita, Acme and J&J are ok if you are just a poishete yid satisfied with a poishete herring as might be served in your shul’s kiddush for the regular tzibur while the baal simcha has a formal catered luncheon for “friends and family”, If you are a herring aficionado, as I’m sure are most YWN CR readers, than only the best will do such as the fresh product sold at Pomegrante or Russ and dauhgter’s or the Bay View bottled variety available online and only during certain times of the year with overnight shipping. They will provide a complete life story of the particular herring you will be consuming and was niftar for your gastronomical joy.

    #1520372

    ChadGadya
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    I only buy it for the onions. Seriously, I don’t like the texture of the fish, but the flavor is great in the onions.
    So for me the actual red herring is literally just a … (i’m sure there’s a pun here somewhere)

    #1520456

    iacisrmma
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    DY: Thanks for the info on NPGS however I am in Flatbush, not in Lakewood. Yes, Normans is $2 but is not whipped and has only been available for a short period of time. And yes, a current sale at KRM for J&J is 2.99 but the regular price is 4.49.

    #1520457

    iacisrmma
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    Haimy: one cannot separate the ingredients as it is factored into the price. It is like saying why is cole slaw $5.00 a pound but don’t include the cost of the mayo and vinegar in the price.

    #1520431

    Gadolhadorah
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    To CG…

    Then try Reubenshtein’s herring flavored crispy onion rings…they come in “original plain”, “matjes” and “schmaltz” flavors…..much more economical and efficient

    #1520498

    Takes2-2tango
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    iacisrmmaParticipant
    Haimy: one cannot separate the ingredients as it is factored into the price. It is like saying why is cole slaw $5.00 a pound but don’t include the cost of the mayo and vinegar in the price.
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    Your correct. However, thay doesnt answer ehy the heimishe Herring makers literally put in a measly 5 pcs. Of herring and mostly oil. Put in more herring and less oil. Oil anf onions doesnt cost 25 dollars a pound

    #1520532

    DaasYochid ☕
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    Iacisrmma, Givat is currently on sale in Goldberg’s for $1.99.

    #1520542

    cholentmitkugel
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    We are in a real pickle…with that herring!

    #1520547

    iacisrmma
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    DY: Unfortunately, I don’t have time to run to every store, purchase the $7.50 or $10 minimum to get the sales price. If one does have hat time, kol hakavod.

    T22T: You also have to factor in the costs of refrigeration and refrigerated trucks for delivery. I generally don’t buy shmaltz herring but I know that many people buy the herring from Schwartz’s and they generally have more then 5 pieces of fish in the container. The first question is how much does the raw herring cost as that is the first ingredient.

    I am just wondering if the OP also questions the cost of a roll of sushi when you get one small piece of fish, a lot of rice and other ingredients, and spend $8 – $14 a roll.

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