A Jew who doesn’t keep Shabbos makes his own wine. Can he drink it?
What would the ??? be?
Machlokes Haposkim. Many hold yes for a few reasons. Some do hold that he can’t.
What are the reasons cited by some who hold he can?
kwaiker- I don’t understand the reason why he cannot drink it. What would the ??? be? He knows everything he did with it- unless he has no ?????? to believe himself?!?
weird q altogether
Sam: What if he is a mumar l’hachiis for a davar echod, and that davar echod is that he drinks yayin nessech.
Can he drink his own wine?
If he doesn’t keep shabbos then he most probably isn’t worried about drinking yayin nesech.
fkelly- the question be, does he get an extra Aveira for it.
it would be stam yaynom…not yayin nesech.
Talmud: Part of this Machlokes is whether someone without Ne’emanus has Ne’emanus for themselves.
This Shaila is very Nogea L’ma’aseh at the Seder, by the way. If you have a guest who is a Mechalel Shabbos B’farhesia, can you pour him a glass of non-Mevushal wine or is it Lifnei Iver because he will touch it before drinking it?
Sam2- where is this machlokes? never learnt Nazir.
So what is the answer? This is halacha l’maaseh btw (although since it seems to be such a machlokes, I’m going to have to call a Rav about it…)
Talmud: Start with the Nosei Keilim (I don’t think it’s any major ones) by Bishul Akum and whether that applies to a Mechalel Shabbos B’farhesia. I think it begins to be referenced around there. I don’t recall who says what off the top of my head.
t613: How is it actually L’ma’aseh? Unless you plan on having a Mechalel Shabbos B’farhesia at your Seder table and plan on serving non-Mevushal wine, in which case ask your Rav. Or just buy Mevushal.
Your parents make their own wine for Pesach use. My partner in Torah came up with this question.
How is it lmaaisa? Her parents are mechallel Shabbos? Even so, she cannot do anything to stop her parents from drinking their wine. So where’s the lmaaisa?
I once heard that when REb Elchonon was in America someone told him he works on shabbos but lmaaseh he doesn’t trust anybody in americas shchita so he wanted to shecht his own meat. HE asked if the psul of the shechita of a mechalel shabbos is a psul in neemanus or a psul in the chalois shechita.
Kwa – Say they are at the Seder. And they make their own wine just for Pesach.
The psak I got was to not tell her it could be a problem.