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		<title>By: Pac-Man</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rce:

All the Gedolim you mentioned agreed with the Satmar Rebbe regarding the State of Israel. The only major difference was most of those felt once the State was unfortunately created already, frum yidden should vote in their elections, whereas the SR felt that they should not.]]></description>
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<p>All the Gedolim you mentioned agreed with the Satmar Rebbe regarding the State of Israel. The only major difference was most of those felt once the State was unfortunately created already, frum yidden should vote in their elections, whereas the SR felt that they should not.</p>
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		<title>By: avrumi123</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is this book for sale?
stamar has a book on the rabbi ive never seen for sale, did you see it? do you know where i can get it?
http://www.hebrewpublishing.com/product.asp?strParents=&amp;CAT_ID=&amp;P_ID=571

it is posted on the site of http://www.hebrewpublishing.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is this book for sale?<br />
stamar has a book on the rabbi ive never seen for sale, did you see it? do you know where i can get it?<br />
<a href="http://www.hebrewpublishing.com/product.asp?strParents=&#038;CAT_ID=&#038;P_ID=571" rel="nofollow">http://www.hebrewpublishing.com/product.asp?strParents=&#038;CAT_ID=&#038;P_ID=571</a></p>
<p>it is posted on the site of <a href="http://www.hebrewpublishing.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.hebrewpublishing.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: gingy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zionflag
Check out Rambam Hilchos Deios perek 6 about how a person is obligated to keep away from all bad infuences and hashkofos. Klal Yisroel do not live in a global world we are the &quot;Am levodod yishkoin&quot;, we are the royalty and exalted from among the nations and we are supposed to keep it that way by insulating ourselves from the goishe and fraaye influences that surround us]]></description>
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Check out Rambam Hilchos Deios perek 6 about how a person is obligated to keep away from all bad infuences and hashkofos. Klal Yisroel do not live in a global world we are the &#8220;Am levodod yishkoin&#8221;, we are the royalty and exalted from among the nations and we are supposed to keep it that way by insulating ourselves from the goishe and fraaye influences that surround us</p>
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		<title>By: zionflag</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[* Judaism is NOT Zionism *

When you live in a small, isolated enclave, you can continue to state; JUDAISM is NOT ZIONISM except that is not a truism or accurate statement for the world at large. 
 Chazal is full of examples and info on how to live in the Global WORLD, check out Avraham Avinu and Avimalech, etc, etc. As long as the World&#039;s belief is that the State of Israel and JEWS/JUDAISM is identical, a new reality sets in that the Gaon Posak Reb Moshe zt&quot;l saw and understood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Judaism is NOT Zionism *</p>
<p>When you live in a small, isolated enclave, you can continue to state; JUDAISM is NOT ZIONISM except that is not a truism or accurate statement for the world at large.<br />
 Chazal is full of examples and info on how to live in the Global WORLD, check out Avraham Avinu and Avimalech, etc, etc. As long as the World&#8217;s belief is that the State of Israel and JEWS/JUDAISM is identical, a new reality sets in that the Gaon Posak Reb Moshe zt&#8221;l saw and understood.</p>
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		<title>By: hh</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will NOT continue this conversation due to the MAMAR CHAZAL &quot;וכ&quot;ש דפקר טפי&quot; especially במידי דעבידי דאתגליא, you could see letters from the Briker Ruv Z”l and from the Chazon Ish as well, and you could ask the brisker ruvs children or talmidim as Rav Schlesinger from London. This is not questionable at all that they was all against Zionism just like the Satmar Ruv and even stronger in some issues.

 In syfer תיקון עולם  you could find Birurim from more then 200 gedolem from before World War 2, all of them with the same shiteh AGENST ZIONISM. 

This is despite the fact that NO ONE EVER has created any birur that eliminates the isirim involved with Zionism etc. that is mentioned is syfer VaYoel Moshe. 

* Judaism is NOT Zionism *]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will NOT continue this conversation due to the MAMAR CHAZAL &#8220;וכ&#8221;ש דפקר טפי&#8221; especially במידי דעבידי דאתגליא, you could see letters from the Briker Ruv Z”l and from the Chazon Ish as well, and you could ask the brisker ruvs children or talmidim as Rav Schlesinger from London. This is not questionable at all that they was all against Zionism just like the Satmar Ruv and even stronger in some issues.</p>
<p> In syfer תיקון עולם  you could find Birurim from more then 200 gedolem from before World War 2, all of them with the same shiteh AGENST ZIONISM. </p>
<p>This is despite the fact that NO ONE EVER has created any birur that eliminates the isirim involved with Zionism etc. that is mentioned is syfer VaYoel Moshe. </p>
<p>* Judaism is NOT Zionism *</p>
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		<title>By: rce</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to hh:
You clearly have absolutely no idea what their shittos were. To say that the Chazon Ish ZTL and even the Brisker Rav ZTL had the same shittos as the Satmar Rebbe ZTL is laughable on it&#039;s face and doesn&#039;t deserve a serious answer. To say that most gedolim agreed with the Satmar Rebbe before the war also shows a total lack of knowledge of history- yes, before the state was created there was less reason to support the Zionists amongst the Chareidim (for lack of a better term), but to imply that everyone agreed that the state was a maaseh soton and that it was impossible that what happened in 1948 could be considered a Nes from Hashem, was a Daas Yochid of the Satmar Rav ZTL, and practically no other gedolim of his caliber agreed with him. This is simply factual, and to claim otherwise is, quite simply, ridiculous. (This has obviously nothing to do with the serious misgivings that all the gedolim had for the Zionist enterprise as a whole).

to Hersh:
Obviously, compromises are always made (even by the Rebbe himself, like you point out!), but that misses the point. When times dictate to a Godol that compromises must be made, then that is now what must be done- LECHATCHILA. In other words, at such times, the Halocho is that you must do the Bdieved. For example, perhaps Rav Aharon ZTL Held that there was bdieved involved with Chinuch Atzmai, as you say- yet it is known that he gave precedence for fundraising to it- over his own yeshiva!!! Because at that time, the Halocho, and the lechatchila, was to do the Bdieved! As you said, the Rebbe ZTL himself did this! So for the author to then say that anyone that didn&#039;t agree with the Rebbe ZTL&#039;s opinion of what was necessary to compromise according to Halocho was, was doing so &quot;to please the wicked!!!!&quot; is outrageous. As you said, the Rebbe himself sometimes did this. So your entire comment totally misses the point.
Now, if the author was referring to specific Rabbis and specific compromises that were not Al Pi Halocho according to all the Gedolim, then that&#039;s a different story- but that&#039;s not what the author wrote, or in my opinion, implied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to hh:<br />
You clearly have absolutely no idea what their shittos were. To say that the Chazon Ish ZTL and even the Brisker Rav ZTL had the same shittos as the Satmar Rebbe ZTL is laughable on it&#8217;s face and doesn&#8217;t deserve a serious answer. To say that most gedolim agreed with the Satmar Rebbe before the war also shows a total lack of knowledge of history- yes, before the state was created there was less reason to support the Zionists amongst the Chareidim (for lack of a better term), but to imply that everyone agreed that the state was a maaseh soton and that it was impossible that what happened in 1948 could be considered a Nes from Hashem, was a Daas Yochid of the Satmar Rav ZTL, and practically no other gedolim of his caliber agreed with him. This is simply factual, and to claim otherwise is, quite simply, ridiculous. (This has obviously nothing to do with the serious misgivings that all the gedolim had for the Zionist enterprise as a whole).</p>
<p>to Hersh:<br />
Obviously, compromises are always made (even by the Rebbe himself, like you point out!), but that misses the point. When times dictate to a Godol that compromises must be made, then that is now what must be done- LECHATCHILA. In other words, at such times, the Halocho is that you must do the Bdieved. For example, perhaps Rav Aharon ZTL Held that there was bdieved involved with Chinuch Atzmai, as you say- yet it is known that he gave precedence for fundraising to it- over his own yeshiva!!! Because at that time, the Halocho, and the lechatchila, was to do the Bdieved! As you said, the Rebbe ZTL himself did this! So for the author to then say that anyone that didn&#8217;t agree with the Rebbe ZTL&#8217;s opinion of what was necessary to compromise according to Halocho was, was doing so &#8220;to please the wicked!!!!&#8221; is outrageous. As you said, the Rebbe himself sometimes did this. So your entire comment totally misses the point.<br />
Now, if the author was referring to specific Rabbis and specific compromises that were not Al Pi Halocho according to all the Gedolim, then that&#8217;s a different story- but that&#8217;s not what the author wrote, or in my opinion, implied.</p>
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		<title>By: MHY</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 01:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question is if it is proper for people like the author of the book to speak to anti semitic media and egg them on against medinas Yisroel, as he has done in his media appearances. People should view the video linked to above and ask themselves if their gedolim would support that and other things Natruna does, such as the radio ads one can hear on their website.

There is actually a known story with the Divrei Yoel with LBJ where he said that such a person was expected to express support of medinas Yisroel, despite the Rebbe&#039;s position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is if it is proper for people like the author of the book to speak to anti semitic media and egg them on against medinas Yisroel, as he has done in his media appearances. People should view the video linked to above and ask themselves if their gedolim would support that and other things Natruna does, such as the radio ads one can hear on their website.</p>
<p>There is actually a known story with the Divrei Yoel with LBJ where he said that such a person was expected to express support of medinas Yisroel, despite the Rebbe&#8217;s position.</p>
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		<title>By: bklynmom</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Satmar Rebbe zt&quot;l did not rebuild or bring AUTHENTIC Yiddishkeit to AMERICA, he transplanted Hungary to the shores of America.  Torah Yiddishkeit of Germany, Poland, Egypt, Iraq and Morroco looked nothing like what the Rebbe envisioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Satmar Rebbe zt&#8221;l did not rebuild or bring AUTHENTIC Yiddishkeit to AMERICA, he transplanted Hungary to the shores of America.  Torah Yiddishkeit of Germany, Poland, Egypt, Iraq and Morroco looked nothing like what the Rebbe envisioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Hersh</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The statement that &quot;most of the mistakes made by others in his time had been due to the pressures of chanufah – the perceived need to please the wicked&quot; is based directly on what the Rebbe says in Divrei Yoel Parshas Vayikra p. 64 in his speech at a dinner for Hisachdus Harabbonim. It is translated in the new biography on p. 227. It is clear from the context that he is not talking about Zionism or voting, he is talking about leniencies in halacha and lifestyle that went on in America, as well as offensive statements in the secular newspapers, and why rabbis are silent about them. 

The statement about concessions and compromises may refer to several things: voting, girls schools that teach Torah Sheb&#039;al Peh, adopting modern dress and English as a spoken language, English high schools, taking money from the Israeli government. 

People should not be offended by the word compromise since all gedolim who endorsed the above practices agreed that it was a compromise. Sometimes compromise is necessary. It&#039;s called aveirah lishmah or eis laasos. Reb Reuvein zt&quot;l writes clearly in Bayos Hazman that voting is an aveirah lishmah and we should do it as if forced into it by a demon. See the biography, p. 313. 

Reb Ahron zt&quot;l was the biggest supporter of Chinuch Atzmai, but he agreed it was a compromise. See p. 287 in the book. 

The Tchebiner Rav, when Reb Amram Blau asked him why he supported Chinuch Atzmai, replied, &quot;Adrabah, you go make a school system for all these kids and I&#039;ll support it.&quot; The gedolim saw it as a compromise but it was the best alternative, in their view. 

The first to endorse girls schools that teach Torah Sheba&#039;l Peh was the Zekan Aharon (2:43) in Poland - see page 463 in the book. He permitted it because it was the only way to keep the girls from going totally off, just like one can be mechalel Shabbos to save a child from shmad. Now that&#039;s a necessary compromise! 

Reb Shraga Feivel zt&quot;l, who started the first English high school yeshiva, did it to keep the boys from attending mixed public high school. He had deep misgivings but he had no choice. See p. 415.
 
And the Rebbe himself made a compromise when he introduced English in his Talmud Torah. Some families opposed him on this. See p. 414. 

To sum it up, compromise is not a bad word. It&#039;s in the proper application of compromise that the Rebbe disagreed with others. 

To MHY, Yirmiyahu Cohen is not from Neturei Karta. He has occasionally spoken for Satmar&#039;s mouthpiece organization, Jews Against Zionism or Natruna, which never appears together with Arabs and has nothing to do with NK. The event video you posted above is the Hisachdus Harabbanim, the CRC, in 2007. Definitely not NK.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statement that &#8220;most of the mistakes made by others in his time had been due to the pressures of chanufah – the perceived need to please the wicked&#8221; is based directly on what the Rebbe says in Divrei Yoel Parshas Vayikra p. 64 in his speech at a dinner for Hisachdus Harabbonim. It is translated in the new biography on p. 227. It is clear from the context that he is not talking about Zionism or voting, he is talking about leniencies in halacha and lifestyle that went on in America, as well as offensive statements in the secular newspapers, and why rabbis are silent about them. </p>
<p>The statement about concessions and compromises may refer to several things: voting, girls schools that teach Torah Sheb&#8217;al Peh, adopting modern dress and English as a spoken language, English high schools, taking money from the Israeli government. </p>
<p>People should not be offended by the word compromise since all gedolim who endorsed the above practices agreed that it was a compromise. Sometimes compromise is necessary. It&#8217;s called aveirah lishmah or eis laasos. Reb Reuvein zt&#8221;l writes clearly in Bayos Hazman that voting is an aveirah lishmah and we should do it as if forced into it by a demon. See the biography, p. 313. </p>
<p>Reb Ahron zt&#8221;l was the biggest supporter of Chinuch Atzmai, but he agreed it was a compromise. See p. 287 in the book. </p>
<p>The Tchebiner Rav, when Reb Amram Blau asked him why he supported Chinuch Atzmai, replied, &#8220;Adrabah, you go make a school system for all these kids and I&#8217;ll support it.&#8221; The gedolim saw it as a compromise but it was the best alternative, in their view. </p>
<p>The first to endorse girls schools that teach Torah Sheba&#8217;l Peh was the Zekan Aharon (2:43) in Poland &#8211; see page 463 in the book. He permitted it because it was the only way to keep the girls from going totally off, just like one can be mechalel Shabbos to save a child from shmad. Now that&#8217;s a necessary compromise! </p>
<p>Reb Shraga Feivel zt&#8221;l, who started the first English high school yeshiva, did it to keep the boys from attending mixed public high school. He had deep misgivings but he had no choice. See p. 415.</p>
<p>And the Rebbe himself made a compromise when he introduced English in his Talmud Torah. Some families opposed him on this. See p. 414. </p>
<p>To sum it up, compromise is not a bad word. It&#8217;s in the proper application of compromise that the Rebbe disagreed with others. </p>
<p>To MHY, Yirmiyahu Cohen is not from Neturei Karta. He has occasionally spoken for Satmar&#8217;s mouthpiece organization, Jews Against Zionism or Natruna, which never appears together with Arabs and has nothing to do with NK. The event video you posted above is the Hisachdus Harabbanim, the CRC, in 2007. Definitely not NK.</p>
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		<title>By: MHY</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can see a video interview with the author of the book here, for one example.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/events/20070724/videos/cohen.cfm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can see a video interview with the author of the book here, for one example.</p>
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