Comments on: Op-Ed: Why Obama Is Losing The Jewish Vote

By: lakewoodbt

lakewoodbt — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:26:05 +0000

Maybe it is time now to hold “Orthodox” Jewish politicians besides Weprin to a higher standard as well, after all Hikind has been around 30 years, noise a lot, accomplishment ZERO, same for Greenfield and Felder, nice suits, but useless.

By: dovid2

dovid2 — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:01:07 +0000

Obama didn’t lose my vote. He never had it in the first place.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:06:11 +0000

#3- Most Orthodox Jews can’t vote – they are too young. Virtually all Orthodox Jews live in a neighborhood with other Orthodox Jews (the boundaries defined by walking distance to shul). We have lots of kids, and have been having noticably larger families for more than a generation. Over the last 50 years, we are not only growing by natural increase but through movement of BT’s becoming frum, and are growing in Yiddishkeit (more time spent learning, higher and increasing levels of observance, etc.)

Most secular Jews are old, and well past child bearing years (meaning the “damage is done” – they have no hope of regenerating). They have money, but that’s it. They are increasing assimilated and not concentrated in any specific geographic area. They are frequently married to non-Jews.

We are the future. They are the past. The election was a very visible signed of the world that created people like Chuck Schumer and Emmanuel Celler- people who held the seat the Republicans just won, or like Elliot Spitzer or Barney Frank, etc., etc. – has been consigned to the dustbin of history (to paraphrase another famous secular Jew).

By: dontbeagolem

dontbeagolem — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:31 +0000

in fact orthodox jews (yes.. we get lumped together .. chasidish, yeshivish, MO & even YCT followers .. to them we are all the same) account for less than 10% of the american jewish population

it is the ultimate in gaivah to dismiss the other 90% as irrelevant

I fear the backlash

By: coffee addict

coffee addict — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:34:07 +0000

Watch Obama free Jonathan Pollard right before the election to get the Jewish vote

By: akuperma

akuperma — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:32:10 +0000

He lost the Orthodox Jewish vote – there is no proof that the secular Jews have switched. The secular Jews tend to be much older (many if not most are at or near retirement), have warm memories of Roosevelt and the New Deal, and had very few children.

Frum Jews are radically younger, don’t remember the New Deal, remember Roosevelt as the one who decided not to bomb the concentration camps or their access railroads, and have large families (meaning: we are the future).

Obama is probably still supported by most Jews of the age of 60 (who are primarily secular, and vote heavily and reliably Democratic), and is hated by most Jews under the age of 18 (who are primarily Orthodox, and by definition, can’t vote).