Comments on: Op-Ed: Outrageous! Orthodox Jews Insult Obama To His Face

By: steveng

steveng — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:07:40 +0000

I looked for Mr. Katz’s listing as an attorney practicing in New York so I could contact him off line, but he’s nowhere to be found-unless New York means Buffalo?

By: YonasonW

YonasonW — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:23:07 +0000

mdd (#56) …”minor” is your own editorial gloss, backing the facts as you see them into your pre-existing opinionm. Problem is, he never used or implied that word.

By: mdd

mdd — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:48:10 +0000

Happiest, why was it Chillul HaShem?

By: ari-free

ari-free — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:14:33 +0000

Look at this week’s Yated. The Perry event is on the front page. Maybe some baalbatim think it’s a ‘chilul Hashem’ but it’s not daas Torah!

By: dphill5913

dphill5913 — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:32:39 +0000

To “happiest and all the rest of you who labeled this press confer”ence “a chilul Hashem:”

That’s a pretty heavy charge to toss around so easily. I dare say that you did NOT hear the speeches nor read the transcript of what was said. I know this because most of you “believe”/guess/jump to the conclusion/misunderstand the statement of the original misguided writer of this piece. You think that the President was (literally) there. He was NOT. This was not said in front of him.

And “happiest” you are most confused. You attack the event as a chilul Hashem while voicing the exact fears, arguments, facts and opinions expressed by the speakers. Unless you believe (in my opinion, wrongly) that in America an Orthodox Jew should not speak out in defense of his brethren in Israel, then you agree with the speakers.

Listen to what was said before you attack the speakers and speeches.

By: ari-free

ari-free — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:55:12 +0000

Charles Katz should read the Yated ne’eman. Obama isn’t exactly treated with kid’s gloves in that paper, which is endorsed by all the gedolim.

By: happiest

happiest — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:09:06 +0000

yapper, while admittedly your post is the only one that I have read I’d like to comment on it.
“What did Obama do to deserve this?” Youre right, it is a chillul Hashem to do what they did do but come on, do you really think that he’s done nothing wrong, and nothing against the Jews? Because if you think this then you are living under a rock and I seriously wish I could join you under it so I wouldn’t have to worry about what is happening to us in America and to us in Israel.
Obama, will not be on Israels side when they decide that they need to fight Iran because of their nuclear weapons. He will not even let the Israeli helicopters and such land on our bases to refuel which they have to do in order to complete what needs to be done. He is not going to stand behind Israel in their fight against Iran. Oh, and what about Obama’s idea of going back to the 1967 borders. Do you agree with that too?!
Just a reminder, I am not bashing the person who wrote this letter because I did not read it in detail and also remember, I DO disagree with how the Jews made a chilul Hashem in front of the President but I think it is a little naive of you to think that he has done everything with Israel, their best ally in mind. Please open your eyes and really see what’s going on in the world today!

By: yapper

yapper — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:58:37 +0000

Notice that not one person who bashed the letter writer had an answer for the following:

What did Obama do to deserve this? Promising to veto the Palestinian State wasn’t enough? How about saving a dozen Jews in the Israeli Embassy in Egypt last Shabbos? Where is the hakoras hatov?

By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:46:24 +0000

55 2pence
I know the left keeps saying that Bush said the same thing, but everyone knows there’s a world of a difference between saying it in the name of Abbas in the back and forth of mediating the dialog, and making a speech of the policy of the US itself – saying we feel this is the right thing.

CNN and NYT in their hearts know the difference, but they sure got you hooked…

By: klutzkasha

klutzkasha — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:38:44 +0000

I enjoyed reading the comments on both sides of this discussion, but I will just have to throw myself behind the writer of this op-ed.

I did that after speaking to my rov, who happens to be a famous and wel-respected adam gadol.

Wishing you all kisiva vachasima tova.