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	<title>Comments on: Op-Ed: Filing Lawsuit On Discrimination Grounds to End Iowa, NH First-in-Nation Status</title>
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		<title>By: shmuwu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shmuwu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this isnt a general election the republicans can pick their candidate anyway they wish]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isnt a general election the republicans can pick their candidate anyway they wish</p>
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		<title>By: Milhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milhouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is about the most ridiculous theory I&#039;ve heard in a long time.  The only more ridiculous theory is bugnot&#039;s; the Electoral College is explicitly established by the constitution, so how can it be unconstitutional?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about the most ridiculous theory I&#8217;ve heard in a long time.  The only more ridiculous theory is bugnot&#8217;s; the Electoral College is explicitly established by the constitution, so how can it be unconstitutional?</p>
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		<title>By: EzratHashem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EzratHashem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On another note, why do some states still caucus?  The process is fraught with opportunities for inaccuracy, not to mention the public nature of the individual&#039;s vote.  They actaully write names in on little notepaper, like post-it notes, then those notes get collected and distributed and counted several times.  One can imagine how 8 of those might have gotten lost last night!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note, why do some states still caucus?  The process is fraught with opportunities for inaccuracy, not to mention the public nature of the individual&#8217;s vote.  They actaully write names in on little notepaper, like post-it notes, then those notes get collected and distributed and counted several times.  One can imagine how 8 of those might have gotten lost last night!</p>
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		<title>By: nfgo3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nfgo3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For many reasons, this article is not worth the paper it is not printed on.  I will point out only a few of the problems with this article, which is full of unfounded conclusions.

1.  In the second paragraph, the author writes:  &quot;... Iowa ... does indeed help shape the outcome of the nomination. Tim Pawlenty is gone due to Iowa, and Rick Perry may be out of the game by the time people read this also due to Iowa.&quot;  Tim Pawlenty was gone several months ago, because he was getting no support anywhere and could not raise the funds to campaign.  Rick Perry is (or shortly will be) out, and Michelle Bachmann has &quot;suspended&quot; her campaign.  But Iowa has nothing to do with the inability of these candidates to reach the nominating convention.  Pick a state - any state, big, small, medium - to hold a primary, and some of the candidates are going to be winnowed from the field.  

Perry weakened his candidacy when it became clear that he could not not speak coherently or remember his own proposals.  Bachmann - an Iowa native from the same town as an infamous serial killer, not a famous movie star with a similar name as the killer - Bachmann, who was supposedly a &quot;favorite daughter&quot; of Iowa, finished last, perhaps because she could not get any facts right.  And if the first primary were held in a state with a minority population served by this web site, Bachmann&#039;s pronunciation of &quot;chutzpah&quot; (she used the same initial consonant sound that starts &quot;chicken&quot;) would not have helped her with the Yiddish-speakers.  There is simply no reason to suggest - as the author does - that if the opening primary were a state more aligned with racial/ethnic mix of the US as a whole, Pawlenty, Bachmann and/or Perry would still viable candidates.  And a tougher question is:  Is there a state whose racial/ethnic mix matches that of the whole nation?  The author does not tell us, and I do not pretend to know.

2.  In the last paragraph, the author states that the current system gives Iowa and New Hampshire power over the rest of the US.  Historically, Iowa&#039;s caucus winners have rarely become president, or even a candidate, and New Hampshire&#039;s primary winners are not necessarily assured of a nomination or election as president.

3.  The author does not propose any alternative to the current system, let alone explain how a different system would result in different - or better, or more democratic - candidates or presidents.  I believe there are some deficiencies in the present system, but if you want to know what they are, do not read this article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For many reasons, this article is not worth the paper it is not printed on.  I will point out only a few of the problems with this article, which is full of unfounded conclusions.</p>
<p>1.  In the second paragraph, the author writes:  &#8220;&#8230; Iowa &#8230; does indeed help shape the outcome of the nomination. Tim Pawlenty is gone due to Iowa, and Rick Perry may be out of the game by the time people read this also due to Iowa.&#8221;  Tim Pawlenty was gone several months ago, because he was getting no support anywhere and could not raise the funds to campaign.  Rick Perry is (or shortly will be) out, and Michelle Bachmann has &#8220;suspended&#8221; her campaign.  But Iowa has nothing to do with the inability of these candidates to reach the nominating convention.  Pick a state &#8211; any state, big, small, medium &#8211; to hold a primary, and some of the candidates are going to be winnowed from the field.  </p>
<p>Perry weakened his candidacy when it became clear that he could not not speak coherently or remember his own proposals.  Bachmann &#8211; an Iowa native from the same town as an infamous serial killer, not a famous movie star with a similar name as the killer &#8211; Bachmann, who was supposedly a &#8220;favorite daughter&#8221; of Iowa, finished last, perhaps because she could not get any facts right.  And if the first primary were held in a state with a minority population served by this web site, Bachmann&#8217;s pronunciation of &#8220;chutzpah&#8221; (she used the same initial consonant sound that starts &#8220;chicken&#8221;) would not have helped her with the Yiddish-speakers.  There is simply no reason to suggest &#8211; as the author does &#8211; that if the opening primary were a state more aligned with racial/ethnic mix of the US as a whole, Pawlenty, Bachmann and/or Perry would still viable candidates.  And a tougher question is:  Is there a state whose racial/ethnic mix matches that of the whole nation?  The author does not tell us, and I do not pretend to know.</p>
<p>2.  In the last paragraph, the author states that the current system gives Iowa and New Hampshire power over the rest of the US.  Historically, Iowa&#8217;s caucus winners have rarely become president, or even a candidate, and New Hampshire&#8217;s primary winners are not necessarily assured of a nomination or election as president.</p>
<p>3.  The author does not propose any alternative to the current system, let alone explain how a different system would result in different &#8211; or better, or more democratic &#8211; candidates or presidents.  I believe there are some deficiencies in the present system, but if you want to know what they are, do not read this article.</p>
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		<title>By: bugnot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bugnot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about first go against the electoral college. Thanx to them, all money is spent in only 10 states. Why should NY loose out on have money spent there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about first go against the electoral college. Thanx to them, all money is spent in only 10 states. Why should NY loose out on have money spent there?</p>
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		<title>By: mms601</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mms601]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without going one state at a time, only the very rich will be able to run around nationally, and goodbye to the non-establishment little guy. Someones got to be first, so let get over it that it&#039;s Iowa and NH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without going one state at a time, only the very rich will be able to run around nationally, and goodbye to the non-establishment little guy. Someones got to be first, so let get over it that it&#8217;s Iowa and NH.</p>
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		<title>By: mbachur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mbachur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was actually listening to shawn hannity yesterday and it was mentioned that without this Iowa is nothing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually listening to shawn hannity yesterday and it was mentioned that without this Iowa is nothing</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s up to the political parties and the state legislatures. Technically, the political parties are private organization (this was in the Supreme Court case upholding a &quot;white&#039;s only&quot; primary). There is no legal requirement for a party to even hold a primary or to have caucuses.  The traditional way was for the party leaders to get together and pick a nominee - so candidates went around talking to the county-level and state-level party leaders. 

If New York wants to be the first primary, there is nothing to stop it from doing so. Indeed, the reason the primaries have move up several months is states keep moving to the front of the line, so Iowa and New Hampshire move up even earlier.

In all fairness, having the initial primaries in small states allows a &quot;dark horse&quot; to establish credentials, and thereby attract the funds to campaign in the big states. If the big states were first, or there was a national primary, Romney would have an insurmountable advantage (whereas based on polls, several other candidates have managed to overtake him for at least part of the race).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s up to the political parties and the state legislatures. Technically, the political parties are private organization (this was in the Supreme Court case upholding a &#8220;white&#8217;s only&#8221; primary). There is no legal requirement for a party to even hold a primary or to have caucuses.  The traditional way was for the party leaders to get together and pick a nominee &#8211; so candidates went around talking to the county-level and state-level party leaders. </p>
<p>If New York wants to be the first primary, there is nothing to stop it from doing so. Indeed, the reason the primaries have move up several months is states keep moving to the front of the line, so Iowa and New Hampshire move up even earlier.</p>
<p>In all fairness, having the initial primaries in small states allows a &#8220;dark horse&#8221; to establish credentials, and thereby attract the funds to campaign in the big states. If the big states were first, or there was a national primary, Romney would have an insurmountable advantage (whereas based on polls, several other candidates have managed to overtake him for at least part of the race).</p>
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