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	<title>Comments on: Op-Ed: Mayor DeBlasio And The Stark Shiva Call</title>
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		<title>By: 2qwerty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[2qwerty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 00:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even ADL in their letter to Post didn&#039;t condemn the title so you expect Mayor to go beyond that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even ADL in their letter to Post didn&#8217;t condemn the title so you expect Mayor to go beyond that?</p>
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		<title>By: YITZCHOK2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 19:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let us be honest our self appointed askanim love there pictures with these people and love invitations to white house dinners and inaugurations that they convince themselves that by not speaking out they are doing a mitzvah. Every so called askan should call out the mayor on this! Metizah Bpeh is an issue where the mayor might disagree with us but human decency for Jewish blood is not an issue up for discussion this is something  only blinded by kovod  askanim can defend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us be honest our self appointed askanim love there pictures with these people and love invitations to white house dinners and inaugurations that they convince themselves that by not speaking out they are doing a mitzvah. Every so called askan should call out the mayor on this! Metizah Bpeh is an issue where the mayor might disagree with us but human decency for Jewish blood is not an issue up for discussion this is something  only blinded by kovod  askanim can defend.</p>
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		<title>By: peakman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 19:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a voice of sanity

to z 

every mayor does what, visit every murder victim not true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a voice of sanity</p>
<p>to z </p>
<p>every mayor does what, visit every murder victim not true.</p>
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		<title>By: kollel faker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kollel faker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not a mayoral responsibility to attend a businessmen&#039;s shiva nor his obligation to comment on news papers headlines.  I didn&#039;t vote for him I saw him as a high taxation socialist.  But to say he has an obligation.  Absolutely not.  
Until all the facts are in keeping quite is a smart thing.  
Visiting wounded or injured police or fire men on the job that&#039;s something else]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a mayoral responsibility to attend a businessmen&#8217;s shiva nor his obligation to comment on news papers headlines.  I didn&#8217;t vote for him I saw him as a high taxation socialist.  But to say he has an obligation.  Absolutely not.<br />
Until all the facts are in keeping quite is a smart thing.<br />
Visiting wounded or injured police or fire men on the job that&#8217;s something else</p>
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		<title>By: cousin sue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cousin sue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 19:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even before getting to the shiva call, how much time does it take to condemn inciteful l news reporting which in outrages more of the same and instigates extreme hate? This time it affects the Jews .   Is this a new trend? Papers are permitted to incite and encourage hate and the mayor is quiet.? What I fit were incitement against the Italian population ?....the post encourages violence... It&#039;s ok..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even before getting to the shiva call, how much time does it take to condemn inciteful l news reporting which in outrages more of the same and instigates extreme hate? This time it affects the Jews .   Is this a new trend? Papers are permitted to incite and encourage hate and the mayor is quiet.? What I fit were incitement against the Italian population ?&#8230;.the post encourages violence&#8230; It&#8217;s ok..</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to z:  Should the mayor have visited the families of every one of the 334 murder victims in 2013?  Each day spend 2+ hours on this?  If you needed to, would you be able to find that kind of time in your schedule?  And I imagine that the mayor is even busier than you are.  

What about make a statement?  condemning the horrible murder?  Would you want the mayor to make 334 statements per year condemning every horrible murder?  only if the victim is a member of a large group of people that care about him or her?  I do not want my mayor making such statements every day, for ever murder that takes place.  Where would you draw the line?  How about if once every three months the mayor condemns all terrible murders, he can even say the names of the 80 people killed that quarter.  Would that be enough?

Would you want the moetzes gedolei Torah to condemn this murder?  Why not?  They are our leaders and I certainly hope they condemn this crime.  Do you want the governor of NY state to condemn this?  What about the NY Yankees?  Also, at the end of the day, why is it important for a public official to publicly condemn that which every single NYC resident -- including the terrible murderers ym&quot;sh -- know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to z:  Should the mayor have visited the families of every one of the 334 murder victims in 2013?  Each day spend 2+ hours on this?  If you needed to, would you be able to find that kind of time in your schedule?  And I imagine that the mayor is even busier than you are.  </p>
<p>What about make a statement?  condemning the horrible murder?  Would you want the mayor to make 334 statements per year condemning every horrible murder?  only if the victim is a member of a large group of people that care about him or her?  I do not want my mayor making such statements every day, for ever murder that takes place.  Where would you draw the line?  How about if once every three months the mayor condemns all terrible murders, he can even say the names of the 80 people killed that quarter.  Would that be enough?</p>
<p>Would you want the moetzes gedolei Torah to condemn this murder?  Why not?  They are our leaders and I certainly hope they condemn this crime.  Do you want the governor of NY state to condemn this?  What about the NY Yankees?  Also, at the end of the day, why is it important for a public official to publicly condemn that which every single NYC resident &#8212; including the terrible murderers ym&#8221;sh &#8212; know?</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the largest newspapers in New York came out, for all purposes, in favor of the murder. In a big city, no mayor would have time to visit every murder victim - but the decision of the Post to glorify the murder requires the mayor to make a public statement disassociating himself from the pro-murder policy of the Post. In this situation, the goyim have a relevant saying &quot;you are part of the solution, or you are part of the problem.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the largest newspapers in New York came out, for all purposes, in favor of the murder. In a big city, no mayor would have time to visit every murder victim &#8211; but the decision of the Post to glorify the murder requires the mayor to make a public statement disassociating himself from the pro-murder policy of the Post. In this situation, the goyim have a relevant saying &#8220;you are part of the solution, or you are part of the problem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yira</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, there are many murders, but we are the Am Hanivchar.
How could you compare?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are many murders, but we are the Am Hanivchar.<br />
How could you compare?</p>
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		<title>By: YMS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By: Roizy Waldman

The Silence of the Good People

In light of the New York Post’s refusal to apologize for their lurid coverage of Menachem Stark’s murder, many people are questioning the necessity of the efforts the community has employed in the condemnation of this newspaper. The press conference in Borough Hall, the petitions on social media, the calls to advertisers asking them to boycott the paper, the numerous verbal denunciations by other newspapers, journals, blogs, etc. – all of it, it would appear, had been for naught. The Post has not apologized nor expressed regret in any way. In fact, they continue to refer to Stark derogatorily.

Furthermore, we know that as with all occurrences, this brouhaha will soon die down. This is human nature. Sad and horrifying as this murder is, it will soon give way to new events. In a few days or weeks, nothing will have changed. Regardless of what the Post has written, Menachem’s family and friends will remember him as a loving son and brother, a loving father and husband, and as a kind, friendly, generous person. The chassidic community will continue to live their lives. And the Post’s writers, too, will find new culprits to vilify, new stories to sensationalize.

Why, then, all the efforts?

About a half century ago, Martin Luther King Jr. said, “History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.”

And this is why we speak out. Do we have more power than Rupert Murdoch? Can we physically stop a writer from writing or a newspaper from publishing? Of course we can’t. And we know it. But our powerlessness should not stop us from speaking up.

At about the same time when Dr. King was appealing to the “good people,” Hannah Arendt shook the literary and Jewish world when she published her article on the Eichmann trial. Her articles and subsequent book were controversial mainly because despite its philosophical credence, it, in essence, placed part of the Holocaust’s blame on the victims themselves, and because it humanized, some would say justified, the acts of the Nazi perpetrators.

The New York Post acted similarly.

In our current internet age, where anyone can post anything, it’s difficult to ascertain truth from lies. But the veracity of the Post’s (or others’) claims is not the issue. No matter what, Menachem Stark did not deserve to die. He is not the one to be put on trial here; his killers are.

And so, we speak out. We write, we shout, we cry. And we do all this not because we think the Post will change –unethical people tend to remain unethical—but to preserve our own humanity. Complacency when faced with injustice, “the appalling silence of the good people” – sadly, history has taught us what that can lead to.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By: Roizy Waldman</p>
<p>The Silence of the Good People</p>
<p>In light of the New York Post’s refusal to apologize for their lurid coverage of Menachem Stark’s murder, many people are questioning the necessity of the efforts the community has employed in the condemnation of this newspaper. The press conference in Borough Hall, the petitions on social media, the calls to advertisers asking them to boycott the paper, the numerous verbal denunciations by other newspapers, journals, blogs, etc. – all of it, it would appear, had been for naught. The Post has not apologized nor expressed regret in any way. In fact, they continue to refer to Stark derogatorily.</p>
<p>Furthermore, we know that as with all occurrences, this brouhaha will soon die down. This is human nature. Sad and horrifying as this murder is, it will soon give way to new events. In a few days or weeks, nothing will have changed. Regardless of what the Post has written, Menachem’s family and friends will remember him as a loving son and brother, a loving father and husband, and as a kind, friendly, generous person. The chassidic community will continue to live their lives. And the Post’s writers, too, will find new culprits to vilify, new stories to sensationalize.</p>
<p>Why, then, all the efforts?</p>
<p>About a half century ago, Martin Luther King Jr. said, “History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people.”</p>
<p>And this is why we speak out. Do we have more power than Rupert Murdoch? Can we physically stop a writer from writing or a newspaper from publishing? Of course we can’t. And we know it. But our powerlessness should not stop us from speaking up.</p>
<p>At about the same time when Dr. King was appealing to the “good people,” Hannah Arendt shook the literary and Jewish world when she published her article on the Eichmann trial. Her articles and subsequent book were controversial mainly because despite its philosophical credence, it, in essence, placed part of the Holocaust’s blame on the victims themselves, and because it humanized, some would say justified, the acts of the Nazi perpetrators.</p>
<p>The New York Post acted similarly.</p>
<p>In our current internet age, where anyone can post anything, it’s difficult to ascertain truth from lies. But the veracity of the Post’s (or others’) claims is not the issue. No matter what, Menachem Stark did not deserve to die. He is not the one to be put on trial here; his killers are.</p>
<p>And so, we speak out. We write, we shout, we cry. And we do all this not because we think the Post will change –unethical people tend to remain unethical—but to preserve our own humanity. Complacency when faced with injustice, “the appalling silence of the good people” – sadly, history has taught us what that can lead to.</p>
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		<title>By: z</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All do respect but I could disagree more. The fact that he didn&#039;t speak out against lawless insanity AND he didn&#039;t pay his respect are one thing. It shows his lack of sensitivity. Time ? Doesn&#039;t have time ? Every mayor does it . If he has time to shovel he has time to comfort a whole community of New Yorkers in pain .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All do respect but I could disagree more. The fact that he didn&#8217;t speak out against lawless insanity AND he didn&#8217;t pay his respect are one thing. It shows his lack of sensitivity. Time ? Doesn&#8217;t have time ? Every mayor does it . If he has time to shovel he has time to comfort a whole community of New Yorkers in pain .</p>
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