Comments on: Yeshiva Boys Smoking: Stopping The Madness Once And For All

By: maitiv

maitiv — Wed, 05 Mar 2014 23:10:40 +0000

Smoking is more common among the less educated, the lack of proper science education in many yeshivos will produce more smokers. The less sophisticated mind cannot grasp things like statistics and offer yeshivishe lomdus instead. Incidentally, playing fast and loose with safety rules is also a common outcome of disrespectful attitude towards civil government (“thats for goyim, we are bnai tayroh, we are above that”). This produces higher frequency of reckless driving, non-usage of seatbelts, removal of batteries from fire alarms, use of non-licensed contractors, off-the-books investment schemes etc.

By: thinkingbrain

thinkingbrain — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:23:38 +0000

OK OK OK chill
ive been in yeshivas in both us and Israel ive seen what goes on
first of all no one dies at 22 from smoking unless its a very extreme case
second disregard any study you ever read abt smoking. most statistics are based on your average guy who smokes between 3/4 to one pack of cigarettes a day,this is NOT the case with yeshiva bachrim your average yeshiva bachaur WHO SMOKES smokes between three or four cigs a day to 5 or 6 a week and if he smokes ALOT so he will smoke 6 a day rearly do bachreim do more than that now a days
third it most def wont help to knas someone that will just make guys hate there yeshiva
now as for if the numbers are really that bad well in Israel its much worse because its much less frowned upon in society but on that same note there not doing it to be cool or cuz of pp its more of a culture thing,
as for the us its not that bad maybe 5 or 8% so chill alittle
p.s. i would love if anyone can show me a study that its worse too have two smokes a day for 10 years then two cans of soda a day

By: magnate14

magnate14 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:34:05 +0000

Some reporter came to a moshov zkeinim to interview the old guys:
He saw one with long white beard, walking, he asked him: how were u zoche to be alive till now, he answered: easy, i ate vegetables and fish my whole life and also excersised. The reporter said wow and how old are u, the old man said 90. Wow… Then as the reporter kept walking he saw another old man sitting in a bench and was reading a book posing like a bochur, holding the book firmly, so he got close to him and asked him how was he zoche tp such long life,, he said, easy, i sleep early all my life and never SMOKE a cigarrete, neither drank alcohol, wow and whats your age? Its 96. Pssss yishrr koyach.. Now as he was exiting the moshov zkeinim he saw one very very old man walking slowly slowly, white hair and scar face look. He asked him, wow, and now u probably gonna tell me that u dont drink, smoke, u sleep early etc.. He said, no, u so wrong, i used to go to all parties and get drunk, i use to sleep very little, no excersise, only chill out, and SMOKED A LOT, wow… The good life and u look like a hundr… No, i am half that age, i am only 52…. Sad but true…. I heard this story from rabbi eliyahu rustami bnei brak

By: Mark Levin

Mark Levin — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 05:52:51 +0000

32,

I dont care how many butts you found in the hallways or wherever, the overall percentage is VERY VERY VERY low.

By: oyyoyyoy

oyyoyyoy — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 05:30:56 +0000

good idea!! dont let me get married cause a 15yr old kid might not give in to peer pressure cause of that!
teens are teens and boys will be boys. its very nice that someone in yeshiva is supposed to a perfect tzadik, but there are social hardships and growing up to deal with. not everyone at that age is able to be r chaim kanievsky in avodah.

and agreed, no yeshivas let smoking at the ages when boys start.
so funny how everyone loves to bash yeshiva guys and yeshivas. 41 posts.

By: lkwdmama

lkwdmama — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:48:19 +0000

It is illegal to sell cigarettes to minors, yet boys as young as 13 and 14 are smoking. Where are they getting the cigarettes from if they can’t buy them? Their fellow bochurim who are old enough to buy them legally are getting them for them. Some of these peddlers actually have the unmitigated audacity to charge a service charge for procuring them for their young friends. Well, let me tell you something…YOU ARE RATZCHIM! How dare you buy cigarettes for someone’s precious son! It’s bad enough you’re killing yourself, you don’t have to take everyone else’s son with you. Shame on you. You’re going to have a lot of explaining to do after 120 years, if you live that long.
Perhaps it’s time for the rabbanim to decree that smokers have to be buried with the suicides.
I always wondered about the glue used in cigarettes. Is it Pesachdik? If we’re worried about the glue on paper towels, why aren’t we worried about the glue, if there is any, in cigarettes?
The next time they’re maspid a smoker people shouldn’t mince words. They should tell it like it is. Moishe/Chaim/Yankel was a shoyta who killed himself by smoking 10-20 cigarettes a day from the time he was in mesivta. His sons, none of whom are bar mitzvah, will now say kaddish. (PS: A fund has been set up to help his almanah and children.)

By: k9hora

k9hora — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:58:47 +0000

money rules!!!
tell the financial administrators of yeshivos you will no longer donate if they don’t have a policy of – we find a student smoking on or off campus – he is sent away – period
money rules!!!!!!!!!!!! you serious – get tufffff!!!!!!!!!

By: shvuger12

shvuger12 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:39:12 +0000

Ridiculous article. As someone extremely involved in multiple yeshivos. There are basically no Yeshivos (in America) that tolerate smoking by anyone anymore. Kids smoke because of peer pressure which has become less then in years pass. When i was in high school 50% of my shiur smoked. In all 3 yeshivos i am involved in (on a very personal level with the boys) 14 boys smoke and every single one of them had older brothers who smoked their entire yeshiva career. The pressure came from family – not yeshiva. Stop blaming every ridiculous thing on Yeshivos and tell the families to start having some accountability.

By: Josh from Brooklyn

Josh from Brooklyn — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:31:25 +0000

You all know it is against Torah and also stupid as to your health and it smells unpleasant. I was 44,b’h when my teen-age kids asked me to stop smoking. I stopped that day. I am now 86, Baruch haShem, and at least one of those moments of my life so far has to be from not smoking.

By: cobycom1

cobycom1 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:23:47 +0000

I just met a cancer surgeon on a business trip. He told me that the risk of heart attack for a smoker is 21x more than a non smoker